80 HARSH And OFFENSIVE One Sentence Kpop Opinions

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Mattchu +1034
Mattchu

48 - I would change the wording of that from “all fandoms are toxic” to “all fandoms have toxic people”

7 месяцев назад
kyum +1
kyum

truuu

6 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +4
Binita Khatowal

@Lady Leen Lapatis 100 percent agree

7 месяцев назад
Lady Leen Lapatis +58
Lady Leen Lapatis

yeah and its no surprise that all fandoms have toxic fans, I think the proper question would be "how toxic is the fandom?" instead of "is the fandom toxic?"

7 месяцев назад
JenLizChaeSoo +8
JenLizChaeSoo

Exactly

7 месяцев назад
Syeda Rydha Sabahat Deyana +16
Syeda Rydha Sabahat Deyana

I agree👍

7 месяцев назад
taehour +1333
taehour

Even as a stay i disagree that skz has the best rapline in the WHOLE of kpop....in 4th gen..YES but in the whole industry ..no..there are raplines like zico,bts rapline,bigbang,monsta x etc..these grps are more experienced, use different techniques and has amazing flow(not that skz doesnt have it)they have so many great years that they have ahead of them and they can improve a lot! And skz has a lot of potential to have of the biggest raplines as for now..no..Not saying they have a bad rapline...everyone can improve and also there is nothing like the "best" in the industry

7 месяцев назад
스트레이키즈 🍀
스트레이키즈 🍀

@Venu Ganireddi tf you want

2 месяца назад
Venu Ganireddi
Venu Ganireddi

@스트레이키즈 🍀 bro what

2 месяца назад
Thatgurrll
Thatgurrll

Totally agree!!! Want I saw it I was like : wtf?

2 месяца назад
Lily +2
Lily

@스트레이키즈 🍀 ateez is one of the most popular 4 geb boy group What do u mean no one knows their fucking existence?

3 месяца назад
Lily +1
Lily

@ଘ𝗅𝖾𝗈.𝗀𝗀 not a stay or atiny but i prefer ateez rapline more than skz

3 месяца назад
boop the snoot +677
boop the snoot

BE just didn't sound like a typical kpop album, but it was a fantastic album.

7 месяцев назад
Ree Jeons +2
Ree Jeons

the meaning and oh gosh the variety of genre in that album

3 месяца назад
Cris +1
Cris

@Cup of Tae With Suga and Kookie 💀 And twitter

4 месяца назад
;) sike +3
;) sike

BE was way beyond how I imagined it, im pretty sure it came out during my examinations and then it became my comfort album

4 месяца назад
Cris
Cris

@Arc♡ It's your opinion btw 😗

6 месяцев назад
Arc♡ +1
Arc♡

@Nayana Sairam same

6 месяцев назад
Su Hanna +233
Su Hanna

I loved the "BE" album. It's about personal taste ig. You can't just factualize an opinion. Those songs might not be of your taste but that doesn't make it the bad/worst. I respectfully disagree. 🙏

7 месяцев назад
francis louis +1
francis louis

@Su Hanna same

2 месяца назад
Su Hanna +2
Su Hanna

@Moon berry joon Exactly… BE album is very close to my heart 💜

2 месяца назад
Moon berry joon +2
Moon berry joon

LOl i literally had a crush on BE album cuz the meanung the songs hold and the songs are also great... a masterpiece✨

2 месяца назад
Su Hanna +2
Su Hanna

@Yashi Nieves that's why I wrote "I respectfully disagree".

7 месяцев назад
Yashi Nieves +5
Yashi Nieves

@Su Hanna But the video says "opinions". Some of them were, in my opinion factual but most were just opinions and you can't really blame them when it's in the title

7 месяцев назад
for:wwin +232
for:wwin

"enhypen's discography never disappoints" PERIOD.

7 месяцев назад
redswlv +895
redswlv

Not Stanning a group because of their fandom is very valid. If you Stan a group you want to be more connected with the people that Stan them as well, almost like a family or someone you can relate to. Just like the scandal that happened with Enhypen-their fandom was being hella racist towards black kpop stans, so if they unstanned or don’t want to Stan, it’s not stupid.

8 месяцев назад
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ

@Thatgurrll im disagreeing with the og cmmt

2 месяца назад
Thatgurrll
Thatgurrll

@ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ To what do you disagree then? anyways I’m not trying to start a debate just pointing facts

2 месяца назад
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ

@Thatgurrll where did i say any of tht💀

2 месяца назад
Thatgurrll
Thatgurrll

@ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ Liking a group or admiring their work doesn’t automatically mean you stan them

2 месяца назад
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ
ᴘᴊᴍs.ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ

disagree

2 месяца назад
Sam Carmen +357
Sam Carmen

51. 100% disagree. You can't stan a group without confronting their fandom. That's literally what being a stan is. Stanning someone is more than just liking the group, it's about engaging in fandom culture and some fandoms are toxic. Constantly being surrounded by toxic people can ruin your mental health. an artist and their fans are deeply connected because wherever the artist goes, the fans follow (sometimes literally.. yikes). Basic psychology. If you throw up after eating chicken, you will most likely stay away from chicken even if it was proven that the chicken wasn't why you threw up because of the whole experience. The same thing happens with fandoms. It's not stupid. It's actually completely valid

7 месяцев назад
If u ship deku with todoroki or bakugo stay away
If u ship deku with todoroki or bakugo stay away

Kpop fans are literally so weird, some of them kiss their photo card goodnight.

4 месяца назад
Sam Carmen
Sam Carmen

@Deyoncé W participating in fan culture is NOT engaging in fan wars or arguing. That is a bad consequence that can happen to those who engage in fan culture. I am a stan, but I just ignore fan wars. but for many, constantly seeing fan wars while just trying to enjoy being a stan of someone can be detrimental to their mental health

4 месяца назад
Sam Carmen
Sam Carmen

@Jade Bkj exactly. fandom culture exists for a reason. you can't escape it unless you completely remove yourself from that artist

6 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen
Sam Carmen

@Deyoncé W being a stan doesn't mean you're arguing with people lmao. i'm a stan of many groups, and i find arguing over people who don't know you WITH people who don't know you is absurd. being a stan just mean you are in spaces where fans interact: Instagram posts, tweets, amino posts, YouTube videos, etc. Toxic people can ruin things for people. Like my friend loved basketball and had played it since forever, but the high school coach was terrible. So terrible that even though he wouldn't have been her coach this year, she's not trying out because he ruined the sport for her. Now apply this to people that you don't even personally know (idols). take BTS for example. every time you look up a bts video: armys are in the comments. every time you see a Instagram post about bts: armys are in the comments. every time you look up a tweet about bts: armys are in the comments. it's to just stay on spotify or apple music where you won't interact with fans. toxic fans can make stanning a group really hard or even impossible for some

6 месяцев назад
Totallynotjahanvi
Totallynotjahanvi

I agree

6 месяцев назад
Trusfrated Bunny +196
Trusfrated Bunny

BE was an excellent album, I'll say that but it came off as underwhelming mostly because at that time most of the hype was focused on Dynamite. Honestly BE was a beautiful but when compared other works by BTS its not as vibrant ig, but from the looks of it BE was support to be comfort album as compared to the other albums it has that feeling to it but then again I might be overthinking.

7 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +2
Binita Khatowal

@La Celeste For you

7 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +4
Binita Khatowal

Honestly BE was a healing album for me

7 месяцев назад
La Celeste
La Celeste

And Dynamite is bullshit

7 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +2
Binita Khatowal

@Zakeer Nalir Even if any fan like those masterpiece they are not going to stream, i am an army myself and believe me some armys just care about streaming the songs to break records, they don't care about masterpiece, even if they don't like the English songs they will still stream them to break records but fans are the only one who will start complaining and unstanning bts because they release English songs but bts has also release korean songs but no one gave any hype to those , people first need to change themselves before complaining, because of hype of eng songs ,korean songs are underrated like they don't even exist

7 месяцев назад
Heena Dhurwe_CE32 +1
Heena Dhurwe_CE32

@Zakeer Nalir we fans care about all bts song.the reason why English song get More views /hype and exposure is because of non kpop fans . and also since English song get radio play so its makes easier for people who don't listen to kpop to find dynamite .

7 месяцев назад
otaku_ugh +62
otaku_ugh

The BE album is personally my fave. I can totally understand why some didn’t like it but. I loved the sound and the concept plus the simple white package for me was lovely. Most albums are doing so much and too busy plus I felt the whole album was so perfect for covid -19 plus it wasn’t supposed to ever be released if not for the pandemic Also Skz is def not the best rap line in the WHOLE industry maybe 4th gen but BTS, Bigbang and monsta x ‘s rap line is just fantastic. I’m always in awe of their talent

7 месяцев назад
Tina Stępień +1
Tina Stępień

Still remember taking a walk in the park in the spring on a sunny day. The album "BE" in the earphones and a lil smile on my face. Something beautiful. Also the album's got no skips

4 месяца назад
Krystal Know +607
Krystal Know

1:03 I respectfully disagree. In the 4th gen, SKZ has the best rap line, throughout Kpop, no. In terms of skills, technique, and experience it's Monsta X, BTS, Big Bang, and many others. In my opinion for a rap line to be the best, their rappers have to shine individually and in SKZ the only rappers that actually shine in rap/writing/rhyme schemes/flow/and breath control are Han and Changbin. The others are good as well but they still need to advance in certain areas to be considered one of the best. I am a huge STAY, but I will not be biased, it is an understatement to say that they have the best rap line in the ENTIRE k-pop industry. They have the potential, but as of now, NO. Besides, someone doesn't have to be the best for you to enjoy their music/projects.

8 месяцев назад
E.
E.

@Juliane Eliza Pacio also can you send me the article that you read in koreaboo? Because i feel like it's not really an issue of misinformation but simply a misunderstanding

6 месяцев назад
E.
E.

@Juliane Eliza Pacio "... Has been influentual across 4th gen" means they inspired 4th gen groups, not that they are a 4th gen group.

6 месяцев назад
๑Jenocuddles♡
๑Jenocuddles♡

@Priyanshu Kumar they are 3rd gen

6 месяцев назад
Krystal Know +3
Krystal Know

@Priyanshu Kumar I know... I'm talking about the industry, not the 4th gen. It's basic knowledge that they are not fourth-gen, after all, 4th gen just started.

6 месяцев назад
Priyanshu Kumar
Priyanshu Kumar

BTS and BigBang are not 4th gen...

6 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +307
Sam Carmen

12. Yes. SM has some of the best vocalists. SOME. SM vocalists are amazing, but people need to stop acting like only SM has good vocalist when there are groups whose main vocalist are at SM level. A good example is Jongho from Ateez

7 месяцев назад
Donardo Davinci
Donardo Davinci

This argument needs to be turned around too. JYPE isn't the only one with hard choreographies (it's like so many ppl have never watched SHINee performances) and if they supported their idols' vocal training they'd be at "SME level". YGE doesn't have the best rappers just because TOP, GD, Jennie and Lisa are more famous than other idol-rappers. And I don't even want to get into all the smaller companies whose idols actually have better qualities than the more popular ones. But what can I say... Big 3 privilege.

5 дней назад
soyeonistic +1
soyeonistic

Bora from cherry bullet

6 месяцев назад
Juliane Eliza Pacio
Juliane Eliza Pacio

@Tahiti Ive always confused their name sometimes ngl

7 месяцев назад
Tahiti +1
Tahiti

@Juliane Eliza Pacio I think you mean Jongho of ATEEZ, because Hongjoong is the main rapper and one of the oldest. Jongho is the main vocalist and the maknae xD

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen
Sam Carmen

@#!nono .. okay then

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +352
Sam Carmen

Fanfics - even the most nsfw ones - are completely okay as long as you don't a) glorify serious topics like abuse or rape and b) lost touch of what's real and what's fiction

7 месяцев назад
Jimin'sJam and Lisa'syadoM
Jimin'sJam and Lisa'syadoM

@Magali Scarsi that's what I thought too... Fan fictions are for people who can differentiate it from reality. I've seen some authors putting this as disclaimer. Some people just completely says ffs are bad or like it's not ok. But I don't agree that completely, because there are some really good fan fictions out there, ofc with no 18+ things. I do like to read some crime thriller fan fictions...

14 дней назад
Magali Scarsi +2
Magali Scarsi

@Robby De Guzman for me Is that it doesn't matter what name the character has. Is still a character that someone imagined. The problem is when someone think that that character represent the reality of a person. Example: Jackson as the party guy, Suga as this really bad boy who loves coffee and the piano and hates his parents. Idk. It doesn't matter if a character is like that, but it becomes a problem when people can't difference between reality and fiction. I have a friend who was mad at an idol because of a FF (don't worry she is not dumb anymore) that's the people that can't read FF. Also there is nothing bad with delicates topics but a lot of people doesn't know how to talk about this topics. That's why people don't like those kind of fanfics (although I read one that it was about the consequences of bullylng, it was really good) But yeah. My opinion on this topic is that ff are for people who knows that they are reading something that is not real.

5 месяцев назад
Exo's Nini Bear
Exo's Nini Bear

@Robby De Guzman i think with fan fics what happens is its easier to relate and easier to reach to people since they are real life people but you have to know thats its a work of fiction and is absolutely not real Also seriously some of these writers write so freaking amazingly seriously so much better then the authors you see in real life And obviously fan fics that are extremely weird like turning idol into a hybrid of some sort and obviously r*pe or the worst one spanking these are just extremely disgusting and cringey and should definitely be stopped

6 месяцев назад
Harriet +177
Harriet

70 is true for 99% but some groups, like K.A.R.D, rely almost completely on their international fan base. Their Korean fan base is basically non-existent (mainly because they're a co-ed group and Somin was involved in the April bullying scandal) but their international fan base is huge, they would've disbanded a long time ago if they didn't have them.

7 месяцев назад
Priyanshu Kumar
Priyanshu Kumar

I think international fan base helps yoha kot after your contract ends and you try something new like acting, modelling etc...

6 месяцев назад
Ed Vaedan +6
Ed Vaedan

Similar for Dreamcatcher

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +167
Sam Carmen

18. 100% agree. You can take this statement 2 ways as well 1) there most likely won't be another kpop group who will amass the same amount of fame as BTS (slightly unrelated, but there might not even be a kpop group who amasses the amount of fame BLACKPINK has) or 2) even if another group gets BTS' fame or surpasses them, they aren't "the next.." anything. That's stripping them of that group's individuality

7 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +8
Binita Khatowal

@C o o k i e we can't say they will be as successful as bts cause bts is bts and those groups will be either less successful than bts or more successful than bts. No one knows the future, actually gaining a fandom of 100 millions fans is not that easy.

7 месяцев назад
vmins gf
vmins gf

i agree

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +2
Sam Carmen

true

7 месяцев назад
C o o k i e +13
C o o k i e

There will be groups as successful as BTS, but not any time soon.

7 месяцев назад
Cristina Paganini +140
Cristina Paganini

I like the concept of nct, but at some point it will be really tiring to stan every single unit and know every single member. ( I'm saying that as a Czennie myself).

7 месяцев назад
Mengkom _
Mengkom _

Honestly that's not even my concern since it's okay to not stan every unit. My biggest concern: sm having their favs. Meaning: they only focus on certain members. Some members only get like one line with luck. The lines are unfair even with a 7 member unit. But if sm can't do it even manage with 7+ members how will they do it with 23+ members?

2 месяца назад
•t a r o• +2
•t a r o•

Honestly stanning NCT as a whole is like stanning a whole company you should just the sub-units you like and if you like all of them Stan all of them

7 месяцев назад
RD483 +5
RD483

i really like the idea of adding more members actually. i think it's quite unique and makes the group diverse. i guess you don't have to stan everyone in the group and stan whoever you connect with. it's quite lovely.

7 месяцев назад
oikawa tooru +19
oikawa tooru

You don't have to though. When I first joined that fandom I was deluded into thinking that I have to stan all of them, I tried my best but I just didn't connect with certain members/units. You can be a solo stan, just be respectful. I do hope they do stop adding members because this is just ridiculous at this point,

7 месяцев назад
Dhani Rishi +5
Dhani Rishi

Unless you enjoy it

7 месяцев назад
americano +44
americano

Enhypens discography is insanely repetitive tho. The only bside I could make out was Fever during the first two albums. The second album had songs that sounded so similar to the first album. I’m glad they came back with some new styles for their third album though, so much better. Though it’s weird that they did two angsty songs (one way more than the other) when that’s TXT entire concept right now. The one with yeonjun felt half txt and half enhypen as it should but the last song before the interlude was entirely txt, i couldn’t even picture enhypen singing it. Also I’m sick of all the autotune and voice modulation. Like why tf did they debut if you’re just going to modulate everything? Even in their live stuff (esp on iland) SO MUCH is modulated. I can only make out Jungwon’s voice 😭 it’s like they’re lowkey trying to make everyone sound like him. Anyways their title tracks always provide the whole damn meal but the modulation is the only complaint I have with those. And those are my controversial yet understandable views on enhypen.

7 месяцев назад
musickitty93 +1
musickitty93

I agree on the vocal effects thing. I just want to hear their authentic voices! And 10 Months and Not For Sale sound way too similar.

6 месяцев назад
SKZ00 +70
SKZ00

Thank you for saying that anyone who is interested in Korean culture and the Korean language is not a koreaboo! I freaking love that you said that because I've been getting hate from other kpop stans for practicing basic Korean. I have to learn it because I'm going to a university there. Yes there are some overly dramatic kpop stans out there but please respect other people for just taking and interest in a certain culture❤️

7 месяцев назад
Mininariシ︎ +81
Mininariシ︎

I'm a stay and no, stray kids don't have the best rapline in the whole kpop industry and that does NOT mean skz's rapping is bad.

7 месяцев назад
Mininariシ︎
Mininariシ︎

@QueenNae oh okay lol

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae
QueenNae

@Mininariシ︎ I just agree with you

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae
QueenNae

@Mininariシ︎ nothing

7 месяцев назад
Mininariシ︎
Mininariシ︎

@QueenNae what happened sis/bro

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae
QueenNae

I agree

7 месяцев назад
Katie N +9
Katie N

I agree with 95% of these but my jaw dropped on the BE album one 😧 Genuinely love that album. Felt fresh with all the recent Kpop title tracks that have seemed to go more for charts with their catchiness. The mix of rap and vocal was really good too since bts had been releasing a lot of songs that were majorly vocal recently and I personally love more rap.

6 месяцев назад
yeris british accent +36
yeris british accent

10. isnt gaining more recognition for kpop globally practically 'paving the way'? i dont mean this in a rude way, but for me, 'paving the way' means opening up another side (in this instance im talking about breaking into the western industry/globally) and making it easier for others to take the same path. im not sure why kpop stans take "___ paved the way" so seriously, as it really doesnt mean that much. each kpop group have their own individuality and concepts, so by saying another group paved the way, it isnt stripping other groups of their achievements of any sort.. 47. svt have the best album packaging, as well as the most creative album inclusives. the audio kit in attacca, the semicolon knitting, put together your own henggarae album. theyre so creative. 52. BE is honestly one of my top bts albums. it was a nice and calm album, they included different genres, the message was nice, it's practically everything you want in an album music-wise and ill never understand the hate it received. 54. personal opinion, i'd say svt release the best japanese songs 56. adding members into nct is their entire concept. its unique, which is exactly what sm wanted. theyre not gonna keep adding members until they reach a cazy amount.. the original lineup will eventually leave, and a new lineup will come instead. the max amount of numbers theyll reach in one lineup will probably be around 30.. the entire point of nct is to have different units for different members. theyre supposed to have a lot of members. sm doesnt need to stop adding members. you dont NEED to stan all of the members of nct, you can always be a unit stan (127zen, dreamzen, weishennie) this is why nct's concept is so successful, fans get fed with content, you can choose different units to stan. so many people are deluded into thinking you need to stan all the members

7 месяцев назад
Ed Vaedan +1
Ed Vaedan

@River Overland I can agree with that. International music in general is becoming more accessible and BTS is a big part of that.

7 месяцев назад
River Overland +4
River Overland

@Ed Vaedan BTS laid the groundwork for Kpop groups to be nominated at American award shows and taken seriously by westerners. Kpop was popular among Asian countries before but after BTS, practically the entire world knows Kpop and in one way or another are less prejudiced against it

7 месяцев назад
yeris british accent +2
yeris british accent

@Ed Vaedan mhmm yes that makes a lot more sense !! 'opening doors' is a much better phrase to describe bts and groups alike

7 месяцев назад
Ed Vaedan +13
Ed Vaedan

For 10, I think it would be better to say that BTS has opened doors. ‘Paving the way’ is literally about laying the groundwork and that credit should go to the groups from 10 to 20+ years ago.

7 месяцев назад
tempest +60
tempest

I have to disagree on the opinion on "sm should stop adding members to nct" cause nct's whole concept is adding members, and if sm stops adding members to nct, then their concept wouldn't make any sense

7 месяцев назад
tempest
tempest

@my notifs are off so don't bother replying if u don't agree with it don't reply. have some sense

6 месяцев назад
my notifs are off so don't bother replying +2
my notifs are off so don't bother replying

lmao do you really think it's good for the members to get no screen time or content because they're being overshadowed by fifty other people. have some sense.

6 месяцев назад
Tanielented +1
Tanielented

@Eri Lee yaa.. the fans wouldn't want anyone to leave... That's why I hate the infinite number concept...

7 месяцев назад
Eri Lee +3
Eri Lee

@Tanielented That's your opinion and its fine! I personally love the concept, and welcome adding another unit or 2 (though infinite is excessive). I can say a 'graduation' idea would go horribly though... no true NCTzens want members leaving, only solo stans.

7 месяцев назад
Tanielented +5
Tanielented

@yen nhi that's your opinion...but iny it's stupid and overwhelming.. all the boys are sooo damn talented but is unable show their full potential in a single song especially 127..

7 месяцев назад
Boba Sparkles +69
Boba Sparkles

Although I agree with every other opinion (that last one tho 😭) I do think that it's perfectly valid to unstan a group because of the fandom. I'll use enhypen as an example. As a black fan, when the whole n word situation (iykyk) came up, I was bullied so bad simply for wanting clarification. I didn't say he said nor did I assume he did (frankly i didn't hear it) but thought it would've been nice if the company could at least clarify or say something about the whole situation. But upon asking for just that, I got attacked by hundreds (dead serious, hundreds) of people who don't even know me. Literally got death threats and racial slurs thrown at me from other engenes, people threatening to find me and hurt me simply because I asked the company to release a statement (which would've probably settled the issue much quicker instead of waiting for it to die down). As much as I love enhypen, enjoy their music and wish the best for all seven of them, I'm not going to sit around and actively say I'm part of a fandom with people so many people that don't even respect me as a human. Ignoring your faves actions and bullying anyone who doesn't is something many people in most fandoms do, but I've just never experienced such a situation in any other fandom I'm part of. Though I am still a fan of enhypen and know that there's SO many wonderful people within the fandom, i don't want to associate myself with engenes bc I have to put my mental health before a group who don't even know me. For some people, their way of escaping that toxicity would be by not associating themselves with the group at all, which to me is perfectly understandable. This was really long but I just wanted to give a personal perspective on that point, hope everyone's having a nice day. 😊

7 месяцев назад
Lowkey Funny AF +3
Lowkey Funny AF

Honestly as a black fan myself, it gets very difficult to “Stan” a group or be apart of a fandom where they are ready to simply ignore the ignorance remarks of their faves and make excuses like “They don’t know what that word means” or “they don’t know about American history to understand.” No one said they need to know America’s history. We just simply ask for them to be educated on why certain words, phrases, & hair styles shouldn’t be used. (Certain styles are alright. Others are taken too far imo) And it means a lot to me, as a black fan, if racially ignorant mistakes aren’t repeated bc it makes me feel like the idol/group learned something from the experience.

7 месяцев назад
James Charles Back up account +2
James Charles Back up account

I'm so sorry, I don't really listen to enhypen but was kinda starting to like them through the shorts I saw with their songs but now that I know this I honestly don't think I can join the fandom or stan the group, I'll support them and wish them all the best luck but I can't get myself into a rookie group with a rookie fandom who goes that far, just imagine what will happen in the next few years

7 месяцев назад
James Charles Back up account +5
James Charles Back up account

@sushil kumar honestly the "we don't consider them a fan" thing doesn't really make sense, they're still fans so it still hurts the same, but I get what you mean

7 месяцев назад
sushil kumar +12
sushil kumar

I'm so sorry.... It must have been hurted you as engene we don't consider them as fan... Even I want a clarification till this day. (but I know their company not gonna give us a clarification) and once again so sorry... Have a good day and make sure to drink water. :)

7 месяцев назад
Krittika Biswas +151
Krittika Biswas

"Twice are not weak singers , they just need to work more on their vocals " ..... Bestie , that literally means that they are weak singers lol . 😆

7 месяцев назад
AB
AB

no but they have like 1 of the best vocalist of 3rd gen imo jiyho her vocals are just ssoothing(sry if i pronounced her name wrong i am not a once)

3 месяца назад
Kaichuu
Kaichuu

Their vocals are pretty good tho, i mean nayeon, jihyo, jeongyeon's voice r good and the high notes they sing are good

3 месяца назад
Captain Of Astro Boat Ddana +2
Captain Of Astro Boat Ddana

Well, something that has room for improvement doesn't mean it isn't good at all

6 месяцев назад
#!nono
#!nono

Exactly what I said! Like bruh

7 месяцев назад
kay.may. lia +2
kay.may. lia

Sometimes the note of their song are too high...not their fault tho

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +164
Sam Carmen

49. True, but the reason why it's such a big thing is because some people who are literal stage demons (San - Ateez, Soyeon - (g)i-dle, Hyunjin - Stray Kids, Yeji - Itzy etc) are actually so adorable off stage that it actually gives you whiplash and you wonder how they are same person. Like this is how San's fancams go: Him being smily and adorable to him acting like the devil incarnate for 3 minutes to as soon as the stage ends (like an actual switch, it's insane), he runs around all smily again. Like what? His members are constantly talking about how he has the biggest duality in a group. It's for people like San that are why dualities are talked about, not just the people who aren't too different on and off stage

7 месяцев назад
mayukha sagi +1
mayukha sagi

san- satan

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen
Sam Carmen

@vrominill right

7 месяцев назад
vrominill +3
vrominill

i argee with you and want to say more, i feel like there are still some idols who act the same on and off stage. sometimes they smile and sometimes they don't that mean they have different moods not duality. that's why duality is such a big thing but fans just always want their idols to be duality and sometimes they are not.

7 месяцев назад
Sam Carmen +3
Sam Carmen

@kummybear I mean she was almost in a group called Stray Kids. Her group just didn't win the survival show

7 месяцев назад
kummybear +2
kummybear

why did i read it as stray kids, yeji and thought it made sense for 2 seconds-

7 месяцев назад
kalmu❤ +22
kalmu❤

BE album was honestly soooo good that even my family joined the fandom after hearing it ....... but I guess its personal preference.

7 месяцев назад
Kaito Kuroba +18
Kaito Kuroba

"I am truly happy that GOT7 left JYP Ent" ME TOO BABE, ME TOO.

7 месяцев назад
Na +28
Na

red velvet have a mature friendship thats why. most of the members trained for more than 3 years before debuting, thus they know each other well.

7 месяцев назад
killahobi +62
killahobi

32. bruh i saw a moa and an engene fighting like not even 3 days ago it was so funny the moa said enhypen fans are called car engines or smth then the engene said "yall is an extinct bird" then pulled up a pic of a bird called moa which existed a pretty long time ago it was so funny also with another engene and moa fighting but fell in love..... enemies to lovers trope coming true i never thought you could find that on twitter of all places

7 месяцев назад
River Overland +9
River Overland

Moas are chaotic honestly, they’re so playful even with TXT XD

7 месяцев назад
ning ning +2
ning ning

exactly moas or not angels if anything there getting a little out of hand not all of course but ive seen more bad apples here and there

7 месяцев назад
A clown loosing her brain cells .-. +7
A clown loosing her brain cells .-.

Enemies to lovers troupe 💀👌 I m wheezing- 😂😂

7 месяцев назад
Avni Singh +4
Avni Singh

sorry, them falling in love .....hahahaha .......i am already dead

7 месяцев назад
Lilly 7 +3
Lilly 7

Lmao pls😭🤣

7 месяцев назад
Lavi Stelle +21
Lavi Stelle

I think calling Stray Kids' rap line the best in K-pop is a bit too much. They are very good, but definitely not the best in the industry. And that's totally fine, they are still a very young group, but their fans should stop putting them up to get dragged because of these absurd claims. Also NCT is 100% third generation. Just because they got famous during 4th gen it doesn't mean they belong in it. It's pretty obvious in boy groups right now TXT and Stray Kids are leading the 4th generation, both in terms of popularity and concepts.

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae +72
QueenNae

BTS “BE” album was just amazing I love that album

7 месяцев назад
Bhanu Thanmayi +2
Bhanu Thanmayi

I agree

6 месяцев назад
ron ♡s 艺卓 +8
ron ♡s 艺卓

2:41 i'm a stay too and i have to agree. there are so many unnecessary fandom fights we start. i just hope we come out of this annoying phase fast because it's getting so toxic on social media.

6 месяцев назад
Mengkom _ +1
Mengkom _

Right? I know about skz since the beginning which means I also saw how the first stays were. Stays were actually even praised since they were so mature for such a young fanbase. But with the time stay became so much more toxic. No hate I like skz and am a stay too but it's my opinion

2 месяца назад
killahobi +105
killahobi

#4 is genuinely so biased. youre talking abt the ENTIRE industry?????? before anyone would start twisting my words, im not saying theyre bad. but if each individual member could actually create a good cadence and flow and make a distinct kind of rap style where you can actually tell who it is and have different ways of doing their shit but always connect to the rhythm then yes thats great. dont bash me pleek i rly havent listened to them at all but in terms of flow/flow switches, cadence, composing the songs and all,,,, so many other groups could take the spot. these kids have a lot of time to grow tho and im sure they'll be able to master the needed skills. but anw yall genuinely need to stop being biased bc it just makes u look dumb tbh. blank group being your fave group is SUBJECTIVE but dont let your personal interests get in the way of whats objectively correct.

7 месяцев назад
modderbad
modderbad

Jeez why so mad its their opinion 💀✋

6 месяцев назад
Twitter Twitter
Twitter Twitter

Someone's jealous 💀

7 месяцев назад
killahobi
killahobi

@tortie nah thats aight. just the way it is for me ig. ended up drifting away from my point a couple times too. now i believe everythings settled. have a great time.

7 месяцев назад
tortie +5
tortie

@killahobi alright, that’s my mistake. i was blind, so i’m sorry for that. you write really long paragraphs and i deadass get lost in them, i didn’t even realise you apologised 😭😭

7 месяцев назад
Naomi Pérez +7
Naomi Pérez

In my opinion Moas and TXT are one of the chillest and bestest fandoms and group, and should stay that way. Just because you like kpop you don't have to get in a fandom, you can consider yourself an army, blink, stay, moa once but you dont necessarily have to know other fans or follow your faves in everything. And if you are a latinamerican fan or a black fan you would get sometimes dissapointed of the lack of representation of your group when they show their fans, and I say this as a mexican fan.

7 месяцев назад
#!nono +26
#!nono

Why do y’all always have something to say about red velvet’s chemistry? They have one of the strongest bonds. Just because they don’t touch up on each other a lot and be weird with each other doesn’t mean they aren’t close.

7 месяцев назад
holyblackpink +4
holyblackpink

@Kafka Bishop I feel that they have a very Mature friendship

6 месяцев назад
Kafka Bishop +13
Kafka Bishop

I agree! They're one of the introverted groups and are quite shy (except for Yeri and Wendy, i guess) out there so people think they're boring or treat themselves as "just co-workers" (there's nothing wrong with that treatment tho). I think that those who say that haven't watched any of their reality or variety shows. Personally, I think their Level Up project showcases their bond and personalities the best because they're more comfortable there since they're with their staff and by themselves.

7 месяцев назад
Aline Pamela +127
Aline Pamela

3:42 bestie nct are not part of the 4th gen,all sub units debuted in 2016 and wayv is considered c-pop!!!

7 месяцев назад
AL
AL

@천유나 thanks for the explanation

6 месяцев назад
jaehyun shooter
jaehyun shooter

@Cintia Bryant yup

6 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@jaehyun shooter so like exo m. they promoted in china but was a sub-unit of a kpop group

6 месяцев назад
jaehyun shooter
jaehyun shooter

@Cintia Bryant ten said it himself that they don't label themselves as c-pop nor k-pop since aside from what i said abt having multiple nationalities, they don't rlly fit the mold for the said genres bcs of them promoting in china but at the same time being a sub-unit of a kpop group

6 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@jaehyun shooter yeah but they make songs in chinese, korean and english

6 месяцев назад
xRyan _ +11
xRyan _

the whole big 3/4 privilege thing is so weird to me. It’s like saying “you’re privileged if you graduated from Harvard”, like obviously the big companies are big because they already are established names in the industry, big company = more/higher-skilled trainees = lower chance of debut, so idols that debut from the biggest companies had the most competition as trainees, meaning they had to work harder.

7 месяцев назад
Harika _
Harika _

@period pooh if they really were as talented they would have gotten into “Harvard” 💀

2 месяца назад
period pooh
period pooh

But technically you are privileged if graduate from Harvard. It’s very prestigious. Also no one is saying idols don’t work hard, it’s just that their hard work actually pays off. There are countless people who probably work even harder but never see the light of day bcuz they aren’t from a big company.

2 месяца назад
EXOL_1485 +5
EXOL_1485

Exactly EXO are indeed the Kings. BP isn't mistreated it's just a marketing tactic to make Blinks stream the previous MVs and other videos more

6 месяцев назад
Desire +71
Desire

I think companies should start accepting no less than 18/19 (in korea) yr olds, they say they recruit children so that they have longer careers but it's just because a lot of Korean netizens don't like the idea of 30 yr old female idols but don't usually care about the ages of males (e.g. JYP)

7 месяцев назад
River Overland
River Overland

In my opinion, children above the age of 13 should be allowed to train if they wanted to. However, they should in no way be overworked to the point of neglecting their education and I don’t believe they should debut before the age of 18 minimum. I say this because it’s quite normal for teenagers to begin training early so they can hone their skills and see if it’s something they wish to do in the future but they shouldn’t allow it to take over their primary education. They shouldn’t be allowed to debut either because they will be sexualised by older fans which is incredibly worrying, not to mention the immense pressure they would be under as they are trying to discover themselves.

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@yeris british accent well no a lot of ppl talk like tht. well goodbye

7 месяцев назад
yeris british accent
yeris british accent

@Cintia Bryant the sentence wouldve been fine without me adding "right" 2 times, hence why i'd assume it got my point across of sarcasm

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@yeris british accent oh i didnt now using "right" twice was excessive my bad

7 месяцев назад
yeris british accent
yeris british accent

@Cintia Bryant i think with the excessive amount of "right" i used in that comment, it'd be obvious i was mocking you. no need to be sarcastic

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae +94
QueenNae

I don’t agree with SKZ having the best rap line in the whole of kpop. There’s more much better rapper than them. I agree with with the there’s no “next BTS”

7 месяцев назад
my notifs are off so don't bother replying
my notifs are off so don't bother replying

@Fariha bts monstax bigbang. my rapping holy trinity.

6 месяцев назад
nikki +2
nikki

@Fariha finally someone who recognizes that mx has the best rap line thank goodness

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae
QueenNae

@Fariha ohhh okay I don’t know them but umm sure

7 месяцев назад
Fariha +8
Fariha

I would say Skz r the best rap line as a 4th gen but in my opinion I think mx rap line is the best in the whole industry

7 месяцев назад
Taex.v +5
Taex.v

2:41 finally someone said it, istg i have seen so many stays randomly bashing other groups for no reason just to trigger their fandoms 💀💀

7 месяцев назад
Kaelyn Smith +16
Kaelyn Smith

I think twice has good vocalist but they do have weak ones and I think that’s ok to admit not every group is going to be vocally strong

7 месяцев назад
Sydne Johnson +3
Sydne Johnson

Number 80 was just 🤢🤮 apart from that though I agreed with most of your opinions except for BE being a subpar release (truly love how much emotional comfort that album brings me) and NCT being a 4th gen leader because technically they're 3rd gen. Minor detail though

6 месяцев назад
benazir
benazir

3:03 honestly yes but it's their dancing, energy and stage presence that makes the songs so good

2 месяца назад
spearbinnie +56
spearbinnie

3rd gen rap gods = bts 4th gen rap gods = stray kids just what i think lol

7 месяцев назад
An Deura +4
An Deura

I will add Btob rapline too (Minhyuk, Ilhoon, and Peniel) they are really good rapper, but rarely people speak about them

7 месяцев назад
spearbinnie
spearbinnie

@LAY's cat but I have no name +1

7 месяцев назад
LAY's cat but I have no name +10
LAY's cat but I have no name

Yes along with BTS I'll add Monsta X rapline and iKON's Bobby too

7 месяцев назад
Satarupa Ginger Kolay +18
Satarupa Ginger Kolay

For me I would say Monsta X's rapline is one of the best in 3rd Gen but it's pretty neck to neck so I see no lies in your comment too.

7 месяцев назад
You can only bribe me with a BLACKPINK lightstick +11
You can only bribe me with a BLACKPINK lightstick

1.Namjoon has a girlfriend. Probably the most obvious of all and what every ARMY believes to be 100% true. He is definitely not married but there are high chances he might be having plans for it. Since he has established himself and have achieved everything that one could only dream of, he might be planning to settle down. He is definitely up for a stable and peaceful life with his partner. Though I am not expecting a relevation. (For obvious reasons) 2. BTS are enlisting (all of them) by this year end or next year. Jin and Suga are 30 (Korean Age) so it's time for them to get enlisted by this year end or max to max next year. But I think Bighit wouldn't lose many years of BTS by making them go in units year after year, instead they would get all of them to enlist at once so that they could be back as BTS in 1 year or less. 3. Every year Bighit pays a hefty amount to Dispatch for not revealing the member’s secrets/relationships. I always thought why there's not a single controversy or relationship reveal regarding BTS even after 8 years of them being idols. Well I read this somewhere, and I think it is valid and true to large extent that Bighit pays a huge amount of money to Dispatch to keep their mouth shut. It isn't like they don't have news, I mean c’mon BTS? 7 grown ass successful men? Not have a women in their life? Please be practical. Dispatch can spill the tea whenever they want to but the fat pay cheques keeps the deal sealed. 4. Jungkook’s ‘gem piercing’ was a strategic move by Bighit to see the reactions of the fans to his real eyebrow piercing. Jungkook's drunk vlive, tattoo and gf controversy was enough for Bighit to take extra precautions regarding Jungkook's matters. Tattoos received mixed reactions from the locals and fans alike. So this time they decided to firstly, reveal Jungkook's arm tattoos little by little, to see the response and it was very well received. Then they moved to his 'gem piercing’ thing. Jungkook had pierced his eyebrow already but just to be sure with fans they used gems as an excuse to know their reaction. Fans went crazy and made it a hot topic among fandom. So boom! It was revealed it was real, all along actually. If fans were of negative opinion JK would have continued with gems or without it. 5. A BTS collab might on the way. Yups, a BTS collab might be coming through. Taylor Swift, Coldplay, Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber are the top expected artist for the same. BTS covered Coldplay song so yeah, it could be possible and Hybe took over JB's and Ariana's company so highly possible. And Taylor Swift is releasing a new album by November so a surprise gift for fans can be looked forward to. 6. BTS 'short break' was short lived because of Jungkook's controversy. Jungkook's tattoo artist controversy resulted in heavy backlash from media and public so I believe Bighit called BTS back to work only after 2 weeks of their vacation so that fans could get a distraction. And tbh, Bon Voyage S4 was that distraction. 7. Jimin and Jeongyeon of Twice have something between them. Mind you, I AM NOT A SHIPPER. NOT AT ALL. But from the interactions I have seen there's something between them, not necessarily romantic or hateful, but it's there. The reactions they give to each other are not something you would give to a normal person. There's definitely something history there. 8. BTS all live separately Well there's no official news on part of members or company but it's pretty obvious that they no longer live together. And why should they? They are young successful rich men who earn their own money and can choose to live however they want to. Yes, they still use their dorm but only when they have tours or long term schedules which require all seven of them to be present together. This is all for now, I will add more, if I find or recall any more. Most importantly these aren't confirmed so don't form opinions or judge them. Keep loving and supporting the boys. Fighting!

6 месяцев назад
musickitty93 +2
musickitty93

bts collabed with coldplay recently. also do you have any opinions about any other individual members besides, namjoon jk, and jimin?

6 месяцев назад
Rahi Basu +46
Rahi Basu

"twice are not weak singers, but they just need to work more on their vocals" besti what???😭😭😭

7 месяцев назад
Raúl
Raúl

@purple_penguin° Tzuyu is better than Sana. I would say Sana is more neck and neck with Dahyun tbh

6 месяцев назад
Raúl
Raúl

@franshini You are right, Chaeyoung is not on Jisoo’s level, she’s better since she has shown shallow support. Learn to elaborate without stating that someone has the best technique and most stable voice, Jisoo is a weak lead vocalist

6 месяцев назад
purple_penguin° +1
purple_penguin°

@franshini jisoo has a very underdeveloped agility, No supported range, Heavy throat placement which causes her extreme pushing with carried tension from g4 up, she also has yet to grasp the concept of proper breathing support. Jisoo is literally my ult bias, But Mina and Chae are better than her.

6 месяцев назад
franshini +1
franshini

@purple_penguin° i do know 😭 if i didn't i wouldn't be talking in the first place. jisoo has a so much wider vocal range, a better technique and is much more stable than chaeyoung as well, that and more lmao jisoo is better than chaeyoung period

6 месяцев назад
chae4minatwluvv +40
chae4minatwluvv

yall should stop calling someone's work, worse. even its your opinion or not it doesnt give u a permission to call other works the worse

8 месяцев назад
James Charles Back up account
James Charles Back up account

@Ellily agreed

6 месяцев назад
Ellily +1
Ellily

@James Charles Back up account ikr blonks are worst but true blinks are one of the sweetest people out there. It's just that the blonks are louder than true blinks and it makes our fandom look worse

6 месяцев назад
James Charles Back up account +1
James Charles Back up account

@chae4minatwluvv RIGHT, I'm so happy I found a non toxic blink y'all are the sweetest honestly, older gen fans need to hold onto their horses cause they doing too much, just like how 2nd gen fans hate on 3rd gen, 2nd and 3rd gens are doing the same to 4th gen, I'm scared for the next generation of idols 😔🔫

7 месяцев назад
chae4minatwluvv +5
chae4minatwluvv

@James Charles Back up account yea like imagine training so hard and then someone is not even that talented and have zero knowledge about it called u untalented or bad 💀

7 месяцев назад
James Charles Back up account +3
James Charles Back up account

Right, I just saw someone saying 4th gen is a joke, tf

7 месяцев назад
SongBEntertainment +10
SongBEntertainment

you're soooo stray kids biased 🤣

7 месяцев назад
beomgiuu +3
beomgiuu

44- im so happy someone finally said it, like ive been seeing alot of people saying that there are barely any all rounders in kpop and that they need to be great at rapping singing and dancing instead of being decent at all to be all rounders then completely ignore the fact that almost all the members of stray kids are great at singing rapper and dancing, and that the members of txt are all singers rappers and dancers and all are great at it, it just bothers me how people ignore so many talented groups

7 месяцев назад
StanChunghaOrGoHome +6
StanChunghaOrGoHome

I don’t agree with everything here but this is actually a pretty respectful video. You didn’t hate or talk bad on any idols or groups.

7 месяцев назад
C o o k i e +12
C o o k i e

70) I kind of disagree because the international fan base is bigger and brings in more money.

7 месяцев назад
never ever igot eyes on you +5
never ever igot eyes on you

As far as i understand i-fans stream harder on YT, spotify (which puts grp on international map/recognisable internationally) K-fans n j-fans are dedicated towards buying albums n concerts tickets (which are major contributor of profits) , streaming on korean n japanese music platforms which increases brand value of those grps in these 2 markets C-fans buying bulk albums , merchandise , outfits/products grps endorse So.......k,j,c-fans actually make more money for their faves (ACC TO ME )

7 месяцев назад
eykyra +26
eykyra

I do agree with 57 but also, when an idol purposely says something such as "my ideal type doesn't limit to a certain gender" or stuff like that and people are still oblivious and say "they have never talked about their sexuality or come out so we don't know" it gets me on my nerves. People are allowed to talk about sexuality casually. You don't have to come out with a huge announcement to be taken seriously, like if you ask someone about what do they like in the opposite gender and they correct you what else do they have to say.

7 месяцев назад
eykyra
eykyra

@Cintia Bryant If you're straight then by definition gender it's a factor in your attraction but ok. I feel like I'm overrepeating myself, there's isn't much else I can say

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@eykyra u saying tht is also assuming. Just because they mentioned both genders doesnt mean anything. There is still a lot to think about and take into consideration like wat did they mean when they said tht

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@eykyra true but i say it for both genders but im straight. Also in korea when they say ideal type it doesnt always mean someone u would date. It could mean multiple things. I say gender doesnt matter for me but not in the sense of dating

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@eykyra true thts wat u think but tht might not be wat they r implying

7 месяцев назад
eykyra
eykyra

@Cintia Bryant If you say you have an ideal type for both genders that means you like both genders there really isn't much else to think about in that sentence. Or if you say gender isn't important for you to like a person you're saying exactly that. It doesn't have to have a different meaning, or an explanation. See this is where bi invisibility in society shows off because people would believe anything before that. If i, as a woman, say "what I like in a man is..." people would instantly, without hesitation assume I'm straight. If I say "what I like in a girl is..." I might get both "oh, so you're gay?" and "you mean as a friend or platonically". And apparently not even if I specify "gender doesn't matter to me I can feel attracted to both" people would understand. It's really exhausting and it must be exhausting for them as well. Especially i know some cases where they have said the same thing several times and even phrased differently. like come on, it's not that unlikely.

7 месяцев назад
universe yt +36
universe yt

Can people stop sharing opinions about who paved the way when they don't know what paving the way means? 😭 If u gave more recognition to something on a place it wasnt accepted u r making it easier for other to get recognition or get accepted there ...THATS WHAT PAVING THE WAY MEANS u just said "BTS didnt pave the way" and proceed to say that they did but using different words 😭😭😭😭😭

7 месяцев назад
Creepy.B Stanbtsbtw +1
Creepy.B Stanbtsbtw

@Chad Glipa Kpop was not big internationally. A few Asian countries knew of it, but it was never as huge as it is now. Like I'm Indian, and both in India and the previous country I lived in, kpop was NEVER big. Very very few people knew of it, and they never even used to speak much about it. You can't deny the spike in popularity of kpop since BTS started becoming more successful. Since 2015 ownwards, fans of kpop really started to increase and it was mainly ARMYs.

7 месяцев назад
River Overland +1
River Overland

@Cheesesung I disagree, most ARMYs (at least the ones I interact with) understand the meaning behind BTS paved the way. We mean that BTS paved the way for Kpop groups to be nominated for American award shows, BTS paved the way for Kpop to be taken seriously internationally (especially the US, UK, etc) and BTS paved the way for other Kpop groups to dominate international charts such as Billboard. Before BTS blew up in the US (and internationally), Kpop was known for its weird music such as Gangnam Style among westerners and they couldn’t even dream about being nominated for a Grammy yet now Kpop groups are getting nominated for AMAs, BMAs and more because BTS started it. That’s what we mean

7 месяцев назад
universe yt
universe yt

@Chad Glipa western and in UK

7 месяцев назад
Chad Glipa +1
Chad Glipa

BTS did pave the way to the western audience, but kpop was already a thing internationally. It's just that the western media is like pushing its face into everybody like even SEA countries get news about the USA. BTS made Kpop bigger than it already is. But the term internationally is misused by some because most of them actually refer international as the WEST. The west aren't the only countries in this world, but I also agree that the west might have the largest music consumer all over the world since the two first-world countries are there.

7 месяцев назад
Eavesdropper +11
Eavesdropper

Not stanning a group because of their fandom is valid since if I want to like a group I also have to be comfortable around their fandom as well.If their fandom is problematic or racist it is going to make distant from the group and the fandom.

7 месяцев назад
Moni Muppet +6
Moni Muppet

When these raplines can start making actual careers with their rapping, I'll start taking those opinions seriously. For now, I find the rapping in the vast majority of Idol music functional; meaning it works in the song. But rarely does any of it have me checking for mixtapes.

7 месяцев назад
스트레이키즈 🍀 +3
스트레이키즈 🍀

for nr.4, the best raplines in kpop are definitely without arguing bts, Monsta x and stray kids. It’s a fact so deal with it, when you disagree write your own comment

7 месяцев назад
nyasia +2
nyasia

as a stay i agree that there are quite a few toxic stays. a lot of it comes from the unnecessary hate that skz gets but also because our fanbase has grown so much, it can seem like we are REALLY toxic. looking back to 2019 when there were literally like 10 of us, we couldnt defend them as much so now that our fandom is big enough we are able to defend the kids more.

7 месяцев назад
Srushti Garje +1
Srushti Garje

BE might not be the best album by BTS but surely a huge step taken by the members to try on their skills other than singing , dancing or rapping..and the message provided to us through the album was actually comforting and great ....

3 месяца назад
Mlk H +4
Mlk H

Agree strongly with 5. I was so excited for her solo but I hate that Sony in the end.

7 месяцев назад
Anja Grah +37
Anja Grah

Nct is the 3th generation group and not 4th

7 месяцев назад
Anja Grah +8
Anja Grah

@Sunjo Choi yes true but I think as a unit group wayv are the only group that debut in 2018 and other units debut in 2016

7 месяцев назад
Sunjo Choi
Sunjo Choi

More of a 3rd AND 4th gen group. They are re-debuting every once in a while (2018, 2020 and ptobably 2021 too), getting new subgroups: eg. Wayv is 4th gen

7 месяцев назад
mya sampaio +4
mya sampaio

Im so confused Like, how a group that had debuted in 2016 can be considered 4th gen??

7 месяцев назад
KIM SYA +13
KIM SYA

Everyone here saying there opinions and I'm just here admiring beomgyu's visuals in the thumbnail lmao

7 месяцев назад
Jiwoossiyo park +39
Jiwoossiyo park

52) you are indirectly telling my music taste is bad, not defending my faves or smtg and im not offended too but in my opinion BE has one of my fav songs like dis-ease, telepathy, blue and gray and fly to my room

7 месяцев назад
bbbibii +1
bbbibii

@Avni Singhi like ptd though😂 their korean and Japanese songs are treasure

7 месяцев назад
Jiwoossiyo park
Jiwoossiyo park

@hj its still not the worst for me

7 месяцев назад
Avni Singh
Avni Singh

@bbbibii for me ptd was really enough ..... but BE is still gold

7 месяцев назад
QueenNae
QueenNae

@hj fr

7 месяцев назад
hj +2
hj

She/he is saying BE is BTS worst album compared to other album Even their worst album is also sooo good

7 месяцев назад
Choco Mints +3
Choco Mints

Some of these are absolutely correct, others are either too vague, worded poorly, or shows a lot of bias (mainly #4)

7 месяцев назад
AI SUKI +9
AI SUKI

4. I disagree with this one, SKZ have one of the best rapline but I wouldn't say they are the best in the entire Kpop industry. They have the best rapline in 4th Gen but the "entire Kpop industry" is too much, there are other groups that have a better rapline as a whole like Monsta X, BTS, Winner, Big Bang, iKon, etc. I know it's your opinion and I respect that, I just don't agree with you and we have our own opinions. 18. This is true, I don't know why others think that "this group" or "that group" is going to be the next BTS like... Do you know how difficult it is for BTS to achieve their fame around the world? It ain't easy and it's going to be harder than we thought because many 4th Gen groups are popular and it's unpredictable who will be the next big thing. There will be other groups who will be successful and popular just like them but BTS is BTS and their is no "next BTS" Enough said. 26. I hate those kind of interviews, especially when they ask kpop idols about dating or "making out" like give them their privacy bruh. 30. I love EXO and they were my first kpop group, sorry but for me Big Bang are the real "Kings of Kpop" 36. THIS! I saw an Engene called Yuna a pick me girl just because she stared at Sunghoon, they even send de@th threats to Wonyoung just because she got partnered with their "husband" *cough especially FB stans *cough Remember we're just fans and we don't own Kpop idols, don't think you have a chance to date them especially if you're not Korean even when you have a close age gap with your bias. 42. Isn't NCT 3rd Gen tho? They debuted in the same year as Blackpink 52. Nah, Persona album was the worst imo (I love Dionysus tho) BE album is okay, I don't know why others hate it like it wasn't even that bad and it's nowhere near "worst" but HYYH and Love yourself album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

7 месяцев назад
Binita Khatowal +1
Binita Khatowal

I agree with all your opinions except the last one

7 месяцев назад
Cris +3
Cris

4:11 ITS OK IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT CALL IT WORST YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD THEY'VE WORKED ON IT 🤦🏼‍♀️THATS SO IMMATURE

6 месяцев назад
Mari Jane +12
Mari Jane

At the end, it all depends on the level of "stanning". My sis stan BTS, but she hasn't comes across any particular toxic Army. And this is because, she watch and expect their comebacks, watch their lives (performances and vlive) follow them on social media and vote when there's need to. But she doesn't need to specially have super close Armys friends or interact all over the sns with them. You can stan, and like an artist, without liking his fandom. It's a mental seperation you need to do, you're herefor the music, and for the artist, not for some dumb twitter comments. In some case, the toxic ones can do dumb things, such as protecting their faves through a racist scandal, but then, your first problem should be with the artist, and not some 11yo kids who can't understand how deep of a matter racism is. So for me, if you really like the music of an artist, the fandom won't prevent you from stanning. Since you won't be specially interacting socially, you won't be that hard of a fan, but it's okay

7 месяцев назад
kk~ +10
kk~

I loved BE honestly Especially blue and grey

7 месяцев назад
HedwigsRevenge +26
HedwigsRevenge

wait- i thought NCT was a 3rd generation group?

7 месяцев назад
Camila
Camila

they are

7 месяцев назад
cool cat
cool cat

Yes nct in whole is a 3rd Gen group but I think they also meant ncts units & stuff . For example wayv they debuted in 2019 and also their upcoming units

7 месяцев назад
Zakeer Nalir +4
Zakeer Nalir

Yes they're 3rd gen

7 месяцев назад
Nicole's Daddie ASMR +27
Nicole's Daddie ASMR

i loved the "aNi yOnG hA sEe yOh" in the beginning. lmao

8 месяцев назад
I definitely didn't drop my phone in a toilet +1
I definitely didn't drop my phone in a toilet

6:03 is just so true also teddy Defo needs to stop and YG needs to stop with their very clever marketing technique.

7 месяцев назад
F +1
F

can you elaborate on no. 28? i wanna hear your view on it! i actually disagree w it because people have been saying out of pocket things about skz lately (unprovoked) and stays are only defending them 😭 i dont think stays are the bad guys lmao

7 месяцев назад
Alex_yes +1
Alex_yes

76- I agree but not if its too far, I literally saw a fanfic about jungkook and lisa doing the s word 😀😭💀 also in the that fanfic, Jennie, & Jisoo gave birth 80- I fully agree, he needed more lines in signal

8 дней назад
Alista mizhia +99
Alista mizhia

4: nah like they are amazing, best in 4th gen but they still have a long way to go... BTS Rap line is best to me, no one comes close

7 месяцев назад
Chandra Deep
Chandra Deep

Everyone just needs to chill here fighting like kids over BTS is best and SKZ is best If you think bts are the best yes they are if you think skz is the best yes they are that's all OVER

6 месяцев назад
aM I sUpPoSeD tO tWeRk??
aM I sUpPoSeD tO tWeRk??

For me it's BIGBANG but ur opinion💜

7 месяцев назад
Tanielented +3
Tanielented

@Cintia Bryant ya you definitely a child...🥴 I'll block you myself so that you'll stop..geez

7 месяцев назад
Cintia Bryant
Cintia Bryant

@Tanielented no you byee since u the one mad

7 месяцев назад
Tanielented +3
Tanielented

@Cintia Bryant then calm down... I already said whatever floats for you..so you can stop now.. byeee pt 2

7 месяцев назад
gummiismile +4
gummiismile

I agree with the fact that ENGENE are getting out of hands , me being an ENGENE ever since I-land , the fandom used to be way peaceful and chill , while it's getting toxic now , they would attack their own idol just for a stupid reason and when the idol stop posting they'd start apologising. It's kind of annoying how ⅔ of the fandom is toxic , especially the new one joining the fandom , although those who are fans since i-land era aren't really toxic. I know some of you might start attacking me but it's a true

7 месяцев назад
beomgyu’s rEsiStAncE +1
beomgyu’s rEsiStAncE

literally some toxic engenes sent death threats to wonyoung (a 17yr old) cause she's mcs with sunghoon? and called yuna a pick me girl cause she was being cute during itzy's music bank interview? i saw someone saying this and i agree - how are female idols supposed to be relaxed around sunghoon when he's a mc when toxic fans are literally sending hate every time a female looks at him. i hate the toxicity that engenes have now :/

7 месяцев назад
Tanielented +85
Tanielented

with all due respect, 4th opinion is a whole joke. BTS, Bigband, block B, Mosta X, iKon and many more literally exist. Skz is pretty good when we compare them to other 4th gen rappers (i find Yeonjun really good but havent seen much from him to call him the best) but they seriously lack in a lot of areas. rapping is not just what skz is doind, there is a lot more that goes towards it.

7 месяцев назад
Yashi Nieves
Yashi Nieves

@ela.m @Tanielented Ayo why are we fighting about who is the best rapper when it's subjective? I doubt none of yall are professionals and you're comparing people who don't even have the same style and the only correlation is that they're in 4th gen together. Whatever the person said in the video is only an opinion and not factual, hence the title. Yall need to chill out with the "who's better" whether it's 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th gen. That's how fanwars start and I'd rather not thanks. Everyone's good in their own way and there is no "best".

7 месяцев назад
iKON IS THE STANDARD +1
iKON IS THE STANDARD

Thanks for appreciating iKON! Bobby(iKON) ,one and only idol rapper to win "SHOW ME THE MONEY." ... our flex and I'll flex till my last breath LoL

7 месяцев назад
Tanielented +2
Tanielented

@Maria S S ya true.. maybe I should have just ignored..you are sweet.. thanks anyway

7 месяцев назад
Maria S S +2
Maria S S

@Tanielented haha..you worded it well only.. atleast according to me.. you even gave respect to ops opinion.. but some people might interpret it differently based on their biases.. have happened to me too.. sometimes it's better to ignore 😇 you too have a good day

7 месяцев назад
Maria S S +2
Maria S S

@James Charles Back up account it's okay..it can happen 😇

7 месяцев назад
Avanti 지민 दाढे +5
Avanti 지민 दाढे

And no, bts did pave the way :)

7 месяцев назад
killahobi +206
killahobi

some of these are so biased 💀

7 месяцев назад
coffee_bean
coffee_bean

@#!nono I guess

4 месяца назад
#!nono
#!nono

@coffee_bean But in order for it to make sense, it should be valid

4 месяца назад
coffee_bean
coffee_bean

Thats kinda what an opinion is-

4 месяца назад
my notifs are off so don't bother replying
my notifs are off so don't bother replying

it's so funny that they're trying to make opinions sound like facts

6 месяцев назад
who r u
who r u

fr...

6 месяцев назад
prrr pa +4
prrr pa

i have been a kpop fan sins 2018, i know it is not long but i can say the type of stans i hate the most. The ones that overly sexualize(idk how to spel this word honestly) idols. I honestly like no joke one time almost threw up, it was like a cultural shock to me as a new kpop fan. And one more thing, stan Ateez 😊. Have a good day/night

7 месяцев назад
gonegirlrey +73
gonegirlrey

[42> 3:40 ] I don't think NCT is a 4th gen group

7 месяцев назад
moxie +1
moxie

3rd gen

7 месяцев назад
Alexandra Morell
Alexandra Morell

Yes, i know that. I just stated why some people including korean media considers them 4th gen :D

7 месяцев назад
Camila +3
Camila

@Alexandra Morell the generations are based in their debuts not the idols ages

7 месяцев назад
Alexandra Morell
Alexandra Morell

Nct is in fact a 3rd gen, but for example nct dream according to their ages (00 to 02) and korean media, belong to 4th gen, so according to that, they've been categorized as "4th gen leaders".

7 месяцев назад
mads_ +3
mads_

nct is 3rd gen

7 месяцев назад

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