JYP Entertainment is incompetent. Let's Chat!

plantsarecute +942
plantsarecute

This reminds me of a tweet which said "Stray Kids isn't JYP's group it is Bang Chan's group". I guess that is the only reason why they're so safe right now. 3racha and the whole group as a whole have a lot of control and I wish the other groups could've had some control as well even if they didn't self-produce.

5 месяцев назад
Jules +3
Jules

@Levitating Stan They literally chart n1 in Billboard...

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gabs +1
gabs

@Harriet jyp made jay b edit eclipse(one of got7’s title tracks) 15 times so it had “got7’s color”

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Harriet +1
Harriet

JYP is the one who lets them release those songs so yeah it just shows the trust the company has in them, I may not be a fan of most of their music but they're clearly doing a good job at making stuff their fans love and making sure he company money but if they weren't JYP would start producing for them and wouldn't let them release their own stuff, I mean they rarely let GOT7 do it. Yeah they produce their own stuff but JYP is ultimately the ones that chose it and allow them to releasing it and use their services to make them so yeah they are a JYP group

2 месяца назад
Stray Kids can rap faster than my wifi +2
Stray Kids can rap faster than my wifi

@Levitating Stan lmao what? both twice and itzy haven't been doing well on charts, worry about that shit

2 месяца назад
The Man Who Sees All +3
The Man Who Sees All

@Levitating Stan?

2 месяца назад
certified lovelyz stan +1835
certified lovelyz stan

Tbh Nmixx’s debut felt more like jyp struggling to keep up with the trends. It was like knock-off loona, aespa, and ateez all in one. They saw how good some groups (especially small ones) were doing and took a knock at them, trying to steal what was essentially their concepts, what made them unique. I would’ve rather had jyp go for girl crush than whatever they ended up doing. The worst part is that the big3 popularity still got the song further than a lot of the artists that it was essentially stealing from and it makes me so angry because Nmixx have so much potential so I don’t get why jyp did them dirty.

5 месяцев назад
d +1
d

im little bit sad abt nmixx debut, like many controversies also the song labelled "sponsored" that for me personally made me feel like the debut wasn't special

4 месяца назад
Thuc Nguyen
Thuc Nguyen

@Jorge Esco It's been quite a time and the song is actually good now

4 месяца назад
certified lovelyz stan +4
certified lovelyz stan

@G Idol they called ateez “shitteez” and deleted their comment

4 месяца назад
Eyes open wide like O.O
Eyes open wide like O.O

I get why ppl don’t like o.o and I was kinda off put on the first listen (tbh I don’t count a first listen ad much bc I can listen to a song and not care and then have it become my fav ever song in days *ahem ahem eleven*) but I quickly liked it after another listen and I love it so much

4 месяца назад
Jordi Carvajal +9
Jordi Carvajal

@Sachin Venugopal The Big 3 always has problems. YG: Artists barely have any comebacks and barely appear on Korean shows or award events. JYP: Overworks there girl groups and mistreat there boy groups. Also no creative or personal freedom especially for female artists. SM: Obsessed with certain members of there groups and breaking into the US market. As well as mistreatment especially with foreign members.

5 месяцев назад
Faceglitch +1182
Faceglitch

I have a soft spot for k-bands and seeing that a big company doesn't know how to manage or promote them makes me sad. I didn't like Happy Death Day that much, but I think Xdinary Heroes have the potential to be a good alternative rock band if only JYPE remembers their existence.

5 месяцев назад
Madeleine Jayne +4
Madeleine Jayne

@Whirlywinds THIS comment. So much this comment. It was like every emo rock trope, and not in a good way, where the clichés felt leaned into enough to make it "camp" per se. Meep. We'll have to see!

4 месяца назад
Sachin Venugopal +2
Sachin Venugopal

@near honestly they can cover Every domestic and international bands well and make the song their own .. that's shows how talented tehy are .. if they get a potential songs they will going to fly ..

5 месяцев назад
Whirlywinds +8
Whirlywinds

@Muhammad Imran i don’t think it’s either 😭 just sounds like mellowed out soft rock with an alt aesthetic. Emo groups are mcr, pierce the veil, sleeping with sirens. while hyper pop is something like sugar crash and haunted by laura. not to mention that emo music usually has lyrics of pain and suffering hence the name which is emotional hard core music

5 месяцев назад
Muhammad Imran
Muhammad Imran

@Whirlywinds happy death day is a bit of hyperpop and emo

5 месяцев назад
El Mayberry +2
El Mayberry

honestly I didn't like the sound but when they played live, I loved it more. I don't know what sounds was added or removed from the mv but when i went back and listened I still didn't like it however after an hour I watch another live performance and I enjoyed it more. all I could think was... wtf is JYPe doing and can they stop then I unfollowed the them. sorry Xdinary heros 😅 hopefully I can come back on their next release 🙏🏽

5 месяцев назад
Felix Prism +1518
Felix Prism

you know what, Jype is actually very lucky to have such all-rounder group like NMIXX, you literally can't wish for more cause they have everything you will need for a group to debut. You need vocals? Lily and Haewon are there, Bae, Sullyoon and Jinni can SING. You need dancers? Jiwoo, Jinni, Kyujin are here, the non-dance liners are solid asf, they have no dance hole. And so far from what I can observe, the performances were very great and they have shown they can put out a good performance/show. All they have to do is work on their debut 😭

5 месяцев назад
goodie two shoes
goodie two shoes

yeah. tbh the song was okay but the vocal mixing really bothered me. it put their vocals to waste and sounded cheap. i wont say they're the best 4th gen group since there are other unknown groups out there too but among the big 3 or more known right now, they definitely are the top in talent. wishing them a successful comeback

3 месяца назад
aku happy
aku happy

@Anvita Gupta i don't mind risky as long they have vision and creativity. their song just lacked so much too in that area. It just didn't have a heart and lack vision.

4 месяца назад
aku happy +1
aku happy

@Felix Prism really? well for me, i haved watched MANY complete group in KPOP from 2009. There are a lot that didn't make it to the top but many really successful too. The most notable for me was DBSK. For girlgroup there is S.E.S.

4 месяца назад
Shampaugs
Shampaugs

@S bjbjk shrek idol group

4 месяца назад
S bjbjk +2
S bjbjk

@Shampaugs just because ur mom SAYS you werent a mistake doesnt mean its true

4 месяца назад
Saxanith +403
Saxanith

I still cannot believe that JYPE had the nerve to make NMIXX’s debut an AD. for the rest of their years as idols, they will have to sing about zero coke every time they perform this song. I don’t think that’s a fair trade. a temporary promotion that will be long lasting in performance. These girls deserves better

5 месяцев назад
Ankit 7 +2
Ankit 7

@tnductai if they directly sponsored it they would have mention it on the description, jyp must have taken the permission to use the car, in O.O they have exclusively mention it in description and there is a line dedicated to it. There is a difference

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tnductai +1
tnductai

itzy's debut song is also and ad for kia

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d +6
d

@Di yess thats right but imagine like training along time and ur first song was sponsored/endorsed? kinda sad thoo. i know that zero parts was really suit the lyrics. but I know the lyricist can made another lyrics that wasn't contain ad

4 месяца назад
Di +7
Di

@Ankit 7 Maybe NMIXX and Coca Cola both just mutually benefit off each other's popularity cause it improves both their images by being associated with the other. Not that I have any expertise in executive decisions, but it seems like something good for both brands.

4 месяца назад
Ankit 7 +8
Ankit 7

@Di That's the thing, it can be used as an ad song for coke as well. I was just wondering that did jyp did not have the money for the debut that they have to look for sponsor

4 месяца назад
N.I.C.K +884
N.I.C.K

Xdinary Heroes and NMIXX face the same problem in an entirely different way. XH were severely underpromoted and had an objectively good debut song while NMIXX were promoted like there's no tomorrow but debuted with one of the worst songs I've ever heard. And my class had a long german rap phase.

5 месяцев назад
Magnificat
Magnificat

@Once_Buddy_ Forever because its an awful song

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hi. +1
hi.

@N.I.C.K fr- and i felt so bad and guilty because they have so much potential.

2 месяца назад
N.I.C.K +1
N.I.C.K

@hi. How not when there is literally no content?

3 месяца назад
hi. +2
hi.

I really liked happy death day but after a few months I actually literally completely forgot about xh and I'm not even lying rn I remembered that they exist after finding out they were gonna have a cb soon. JYP desperately needs to level up their game!

3 месяца назад
pinkglxm
pinkglxm

I TOTALLY AGREE !!! I can't express how much I relate to you !

3 месяца назад
Danii D +577
Danii D

Got7 was sabotaged by JYPE and after they left it went downhill. They have so many talented groups but they aren’t managing them well like they used to.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +6
Jordi Carvajal

@Yachi's Hairclips and GOT7 but JYP wasted there talent and didn't let them show off their true potential

4 месяца назад
Yachi's Hairclips +16
Yachi's Hairclips

Well most JYP groups even JYP is the CEO ended up badly in some way... Like 2pm, Miss A, Wonder Girls... Some Fact: In the midst of 2nd gen.. JYP flopped so bad that it is barely being mentioned a part of 3 big companies... Twice literally saved JYP..

4 месяца назад
Sachin Venugopal +2
Sachin Venugopal

@Danii D Tahts just soemthing happen in the industry .. even hybes stokes briefly went down a bit after GFriend disbandment ... It's not that big deal .. jype is still just on track .. and got 7 members getting individual things is good for them .. but i guess as a team they still have to make an impact ..

5 месяцев назад
Danii D +29
Danii D

@Sachin Venugopal it kind of did, the sticks went down for quite awhile so it did effect jype, and yeah they left because jype didn’t do things on their terms. They still lost a big group though with international fans especially in Thailand and China. Also Got7 thrived and got more deals and sponsors than ever when they left because jype barely let them do that under them so…

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +38
Jordi Carvajal

@Sachin Venugopal Xdinary Heroes were made to replace Day6, JYP Loud is made to replace GOT7, Nmixx is made to replace Twice, and the male version of NiziU is being made to increase revenue in the Japanese market.

5 месяцев назад
Drama Analyst +874
Drama Analyst

Like the confidence of JYPE saying that everything they did in NMIXX debut is originally when nothing is original, and them claiming they created their own genre

5 месяцев назад
Arofa Ridho +2
Arofa Ridho

@Friederike Valentina lol its okay! I also just knew that song bcs of remaster project and react to the K lol 😂 SM literally experimenting songs since forever I guess

4 месяца назад
Friederike Valentina +1
Friederike Valentina

@Arofa Ridho You’re right! Didn’t think about that song when I wrote that comment but h.o.t definitely did it first in SM. I actually listend to that song a lot for the past few weeks. Thanks to the remastered mv for putting it on my radar :)

4 месяца назад
Arofa Ridho
Arofa Ridho

@Friederike Valentina you mean H.O.T's "아이야 (I-YAH)"?

4 месяца назад
Gfdt +1
Gfdt

I didn’t know clusterfuck was a genre. JYP really did Nmixx dirty.

4 месяца назад
MaddieBTS
MaddieBTS

Exactly

4 месяца назад
Aarushi Chakravorty +737
Aarushi Chakravorty

It's funny how JYP calls themselves "Leader in entertainment" when they're anything but that

5 месяцев назад
Rafael Pascual +2
Rafael Pascual

@Jordi Carvajal JYP LEADER IN MISMANAGEMENT 😆😆😆

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BM 15 +1
BM 15

Jyp leader in knock offs

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Rafael Pascual +3
Rafael Pascual

Correction: "leader in disappointment" 😆😆😆

3 месяца назад
sunnysideup +1
sunnysideup

@SZA's doughta wdym? I just corrected the person's grammar

3 месяца назад
EJ Darroca +160
EJ Darroca

It's a shame because Xdinary Heroes has a lot of potential as a band, unique looks, very talented individuals, and a genre that only a few people appreciate. Hopefully JYP needs to get their shit together, or Xdinary Heroes will suffer the same fate as Day6.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +9
Jordi Carvajal

All of there boy groups will suffer because JYP boy groups always gets mistreated especially GOT7 while JYP girl groups always get overworked especially TWICE.

5 месяцев назад
iamdaysea +92
iamdaysea

Well, debuts aren't always everything. Stray kids and even Twices debut wasn't that popular but they grew over the years, and stray kids is really only gaining momentum recently. So I don't think they have to attract the max amount of fans immediately, it takes time!

5 месяцев назад
0i_c0me_ h3re_br0
0i_c0me_ h3re_br0

And during that period, the idols can only get a sense of familiarity, experience, and the company and them can get a sense of what is demanded from the group (what the public wants to see from given feed back.. whether good or bad) and how they can fix up the group. :)

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0i_c0me_ h3re_br0 +2
0i_c0me_ h3re_br0

yea exactly.. and I feel that if a group starts off really strong, then they will only expect more and that demand would be higher as time goes on. They would have to pass the standard they set with their debut and as each comeback comes, they expect even higher quality. Any wrong move can be a downfall because so much is expected. That can lead to overworking, high budget and more. But, if the company knows what it is doing and doesn't demand much then it is okay. But, yess.. the debut shouldn't matter as much because you have time to build up that popularity and reputation. It takes times !! I agree

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sorrynotsorry +362
sorrynotsorry

EVERyONE was so hyped for nmixx's debut and jyp had to give us a song like o.o

5 месяцев назад
Oliver
Oliver

I can already see that the almost 500k sales would become less than 100k for the next CB, lol, JYPE just messed up

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Aesya Mazeli +6
Aesya Mazeli

It's literally they trolling us. Give us O.O and everyone watching it have their eyes go O.O

5 месяцев назад
hanatake +6
hanatake

Funny how their fans flexing their album sales sayin *”wiThOUt pRoMOtiOn..”* without promotion MY A55, this whole cheap publicity that jype created is actually *THE PROMOTION,* by copying many groups. So low of JYPE🤣🥴

5 месяцев назад
Jorge Esco +17
Jorge Esco

It's honestly a crime that they are wasting their talent like that

5 месяцев назад
Jordan Tamah +277
Jordan Tamah

I find it hilarious how people keep saying TWICE probably won't renew. Given they just just finished a history making U.S leg of their 3rd world tour and a huge year in terms of sales. The girls talk constantly about how excited they are (especially Jeongyeon recently) and they want to perform together for many years to come. Something catastrophic would have to happen for them not to resign. Also given the number of brand endorsements and length of some of their current contracts at a minimum TWICE will still be together for the next year or 2. More than likely TWICE will shorten the length of the next contract and renegotiate terms for even more creative control. Wouldn't be surprised if they got their own sub label like Super Junior.

5 месяцев назад
sims2lovealot +6
sims2lovealot

@rene baebae I never said anything of the sort. However if you want to bring it up, I absolutely 100% without question think that Super Junior have way more talent and skills than Twice. That's not me having a go at Twice, that's just a fact. Super Junior have almost 2 decades in the industry, literally created the hallyu wave and are the reason Twice are even as popular as they are in the west. They are all multitalented and can sing, dance, rap, act, host, produce, film, write music etc. etc. They are vocal kings, with KRY widely considered as the best vocal trio in the industry, Eunhyuk is one of the best dancers and was even asked to be a lead backup dancer for Michael Jackson, Siwon is a UNICEF ambassador and considered one of the faces of South Korea, Shindong directs and produces MVs and performance shows for many groups in SM, not just SJ, Leeteuk and Heechul are very famous for their work on talk shows, especially Heechul. And they can all sing and dance completely live and sound as if they're recorded. Not to mention they're funny, entertaining, down to earth, and downright incredible performers. There's a reason they are still going strong and still active despite nearing their 40s. Again, I'm not having a go at Twice. They are with JYP who does nothing to improve their range of talents, whereas SM (in particular with SJ) works hard to make sure that every member gets proper training in a wide range of skills that means they don't have to rely on being idols. JYP however just gives Twice cute outfits and a fun dance and calls it a day. I wish he would give them the training and diverse performances that they deserve, but he doesn't, and that's on him. All power to Twice though, if they do get the opportunity I'm sure they would be great at it, and I'd love to see them push themselves creatively and skillfully.

4 месяца назад
rene baebae +1
rene baebae

@sims2lovealot you did not just call super grandpas more talented than twice

4 месяца назад
sims2lovealot +3
sims2lovealot

It does seem unlikely that all members will resign though, and the way JYP has been pushing them into comeback after comeback without any rest or proper vocal training does not bode well for them. At the very least they won't have all 9 members going into next year, assuming they don't all burn out by then. And Super Junior got their own label because they are legends in the industry and have the talent to be able to write, choreograph and produce their own songs and videos. Twice doesn't, or at least not that we've seen, not to mention they're too young to be given that kind of opportunity. There's no way JYP would give up creative control to them.

4 месяца назад
shimijachan +5
shimijachan

exactly! We all know how many content they are putting out and how people say they are constantly being overworked. The thing is they said many times that they like to do so and while having longer breaks they feel like they are unemployed XD So far they have been getting treated well and the number of songs they write lyrics to has increased drastically which means they are given creative freedom. You might say, how are they being treated well and not overworked when 2 members have gone throughout hiatus? The fact that jeongyeon has been on hiatus back to back for a year means that they’re needs are being taken care of, to an extent of course.

5 месяцев назад
Jaminiyoon +538
Jaminiyoon

Regarding Xdinary Heroes, sadly kbands are never as popular as idol groups. If we just compare day6 to any other jyp group, we can clearly see it, or Oneus with Onewe (to my knowledge). However, as someone that enjoys kbands A LOT, I do hope jyp don't mess them up as they did with day6 (lack of promotion) As you mentioned, their debut wasn't as anticipated as NMIXX, and soon after forgotten but I hope they release something soon so they can show their potential (even to the general public)! But great video nonetheless! :D Jyp should get their sh*t together, soon, before a big downfall happens.

5 месяцев назад
GorianTheBoi
GorianTheBoi

@Jaminiyoon oh I see , thanks for clarifying

5 месяцев назад
Jaminiyoon +7
Jaminiyoon

@GorianTheBoi ahh No they are a normal idol group. But both Oneus and Onewe debuted around the same time, Onewe is the kband, however Oneus is more known 😅

5 месяцев назад
GorianTheBoi +1
GorianTheBoi

Oneus is a kband? I had no clue , specially with the release of luna.

5 месяцев назад
mindyourbias +13
mindyourbias

Sadly, I agree about Kbands . But Ft island and Cblue were somewhat of the exception

5 месяцев назад
S bjbjk +433
S bjbjk

tbh stray kids debut kind of went under the radar too, that's how it is with the gp now - coming from a big3 company unless its a sm group doesn't really do much for you, we've seen groups debuting under smaller companies make it big already; all nmixx and xdinary heroes need is better music - they arent self-producing so there's no reason why they need to be experimental like stray kids does *successfully* , jyp just give them well-produced music with no-nonsense lyrics and give them a chance to fair well in this competitive industry.

5 месяцев назад
brownie_lixxie
brownie_lixxie

@vivi lover my fav. Songs would be O.O sure but skz is far more successful than any other 4th gen grp currently they are actually the one who are bringing the highest money to jype currently! They broke most of the records set by twice Even? Wdym? They don't have lots of albums like twice? They gained popularity over just small amount of content & that proves that they were never flop but made to be successful from the start

2 месяца назад
brownie_lixxie
brownie_lixxie

@vivi lover since u have the nerve to call skz flop & all u should just look at skz current achievements! Jype is literally running by skz & twice money! Lol O.O is ny fav. But the way u dragged skz saying they are flop u definitely need to look put more for your favs.

2 месяца назад
Zzz +6
Zzz

@G Idol If you're not very familiar with Stray kids' discography, how do you know if their music is experimental or not? Side effects, 3rd eye, The Tortoise and hare, My side are out of K-pop box. And their experiments in music are varied, and not like in case of some groups, when the same "experiment" is reproduced endlessly. What "sexy" songs do Stray kids have besides Red lights? Dive is not an official release and is performed only by two members. WOW is a sub-unit song and not very sexy. Venom? They don't have other "sexy songs". They have over 100 songs dedicated to insomnia, the difficulties of growing up, mental health, loneliness, finding yourself and your path in life, etc. But of course they only write sexy songs because you've heard that somewhere. People who have heard 3 SKZ songs should stop talking about their music and spreading speculation.

3 месяца назад
Luona John +7
Luona John

@G Idol okay maybe it's more than two but it's not up to ten I swear😭 Sexual lyrics isn't really skz's thing. Theirs is more of mental health issues and social issues, stuff like that Sexual lyrics is NCT stuff, I tell you as an nctzen

5 месяцев назад
L1SMM +221
L1SMM

I do want to point out Wonpil’s solo release actually did great. Quite a few songs were up there on the korean charts. I was super surprised ngl

5 месяцев назад
Eternal Dreams +2
Eternal Dreams

@Erin I think the main worry is Jae being gone. He was the face of the group and most people knew him. He was the reason I got into Day6, I love all the members now, but I knew him from his otv streams and with him being as involved as he was with english speaking things, like dive studios, or his twitch even, he got a lot of people to love him as eaJ and probably a lot of people to give Day6 a try even if they were only there for him. I don't see them staying in JYP, especially after Jae announced his contract termination because he said that he left the company and him leaving Day6 was only temporary.

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Erin +6
Erin

Cmiiw but doesn't Day6 actually chart better than a lot of boy groups (moreso 4th gen)? Like Zombie did really well and You Were Beautiful is quite well known. Kbands are never going to sell as much as idol groups but Day6 is one of the most popular kbands ever. Whether they can maintain popularity after enlistment we'll have to see but they were releasing music (both solo and as Even of day) right up to enlistment, so I don't really know what else JYPE can do?

2 месяца назад
Sachin Venugopal +13
Sachin Venugopal

Yes it topped chart for a brief time and even young k song was in top 10

5 месяцев назад
04Ammy04 +19
04Ammy04

Yes! Wonpil is a strong lyricist and musician so it's expected he made a solid album.

5 месяцев назад
lalalallalaahhhh +258
lalalallalaahhhh

U know its extremely bad when the song is out in all charts 2 days after debut...

5 месяцев назад
MaddieBTS
MaddieBTS

Lol thank God

4 месяца назад
lalalallalaahhhh
lalalallalaahhhh

@Fullsun !! Not an excuse .. i said it might be a factor ... They are from big 3 so it doesn't matter if they have bad release.. fans will eat it up not because of music.. its because of the photocards.. i will agree they spend alot of money but with the amount of plagiarism accusations they definitely didnt pay much to the creative director lol

5 месяцев назад
Fullsun !! +2
Fullsun !!

@lalalallalaahhhh they could be cheap but like that's not an excuse either. Tho I think they do spend a lot of money on them but use it poorly. At this point nugu companies produce much better than them and are able to get amazing results such as stayc's company which had well known producers and innovative creative team that worked best with what they had.

5 месяцев назад
Agum Maruli
Agum Maruli

@djsk Usus where u see that , i see at ktown is normal price same with other idol

5 месяцев назад
djsk Usus
djsk Usus

@Agum Maruli it's very cheap, I was surprised when I saw the price even without the sale it was still cheap

5 месяцев назад
anisah suhailah +513
anisah suhailah

I'm gonna be honest, jype has seriously fucked up badly for all their grps and failed them whether publicly or privately. this isn't new. at some point, if 2022 second half, they might turn things around but i also think there could be a lot of drastic changes within the company. if its true that there is internal sabotage inside the company, good lord would that make headlines. first half of the year probably would be tame or something but second half? i predict there's gonna be changes and its either good or bad, we won't know until it does happen. for jype to have its long running title being a big 3 company, they sure have declined in quality and creativity. if they are "leaders in entertainment", why has so far, all their public efforts has been received negatively? (yes i am typing this in the middle of the night, sue me and my nonsense)

5 месяцев назад
aku happy +1
aku happy

@A Yeon i agree 100 % with ur statement about jyp idols. The most notable thing about the idols rarely become succesfull solo artist is really spot on. They really need genuine great talents like skz guys or got7 members (but they are leaving jype now) more. Sunmi and Hyuna was still the most successful and notable soloist from jype groups until now

4 месяца назад
Sachin Venugopal +3
Sachin Venugopal

@G Idol how can you forget day 6 .. they created 90%+ of their songs ..😯

5 месяцев назад
laura +3
laura

@Letícia oh ok im sorry i didnt know😭

5 месяцев назад
Letícia +9
Letícia

@laura niziu are *extremely* popular in japan, they've already won an award equivalent to the japanese grammy 😭

5 месяцев назад
Letícia +11
Letícia

@A Yeon um, no. the big3 are called big3 because they literally founded and shaped the entire kpop industry as we know it today. without them, kpop would never be where it is now. *they* made the trends. it's not about who's the most popular company, who has the most influence or who makes the most money, never was. it's about kpop's entire history of how it came to be. i love hybe's music and artists but no matter how much success the company achieves, they will never make it in big3 or replace one of the big3 companies. it's literally a matter of history, it's in the past and can't be changed.

5 месяцев назад
ForgetTheS +91
ForgetTheS

I think when their downfall really was set in stone was when got7 left, people like to say that they weren't that famous and stuff but that's not the point. They all left at the same time, and took their trademark and name with them. They open the door and paved the way for other groups that are not satisfied witb jyp treatment to do the same. They proved that leaving and staying together (if the want) and taking their brand is possible and other groups might do the same now

5 месяцев назад
S bjbjk +210
S bjbjk

another thing skz already made majority of jyp's income last year - they had a million selling album followed up by a single that sold 500k, they've already become a huge source of income for the company to rely on so I wouldn't count on jyp falling any time soon if twice disband as long as stray kids is active - and their popularity is only growing, even with being newly signed to republic records I'm sure more sponsorships will come through jyp just needs to wake up and play their cards right

5 месяцев назад
Solo stan 😸 +2
Solo stan 😸

@S bjbjk pfft haha. I mean Twice having no korean cb yet and JYPE stock rose to trillion won because by just touring says a lot of them being pillars of that company.

3 месяца назад
S bjbjk +18
S bjbjk

@G Idol twice have overall the most sales, but in skz are bringing in more money in their 3rd year than twice did in theirs. skz are, if not becoming their biggest moneymakers

5 месяцев назад
rubyjane +9
rubyjane

@G Idol yeah i Know but they are starting to fall in popularity right now with loco and mafia in the morning they are still a big group but again if they continue like this they will not be the 4gen leader Thay need a big it like wannabe or else they will not be considered the 4gen leader like aespa have more popularity right now bc they do a concept who Is pretty new but itzy are starting to do more anybody concept like their new song ain't their colors and message like anybody could have done this whereas wannabe is clearly itzy so i think that's why. But if they wanna change their concept let's go but they need a hit not loco (even tho I like loco but it didn't have the popularity of wannabe )

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +13
G Idol

Tho I don't like itzy but they also part of the income like they are in 3th place and twice still 1th place in terms of sales in jyp😶

5 месяцев назад
rubyjane +25
rubyjane

Without twice they would probably have a hard time even tho they still have stray kids but when they would only have skz as a good group or a group who make a lot of income will they still work as a big3 company like a company can not only be based on 1 group income as u said they rly need to wake up right now

5 месяцев назад
gideon artistry +89
gideon artistry

It's time for people to also look and support groups from non-Big companies. I noticed that groups from big companies are still having insane popularity and awards despite having trash songs, which is unfair for those groups that are releasing better songs but in small companies.

5 месяцев назад
Luona John +2
Luona John

Sigh... Here we go again with the small company stans

3 месяца назад
Nimra R +5
Nimra R

People will defend big 4 privilege with literally stupid reasons

4 месяца назад
Julia Svyrydova +5
Julia Svyrydova

The group that instantly comes to my mind is ateez. They are the only popular group from 4th generation, who is under small company and in comparison to other big groups, but from big companies, they are very underlooked. And the fact, that their music and performance skills are so amazing, but they are not getting exposure and attention they deserve,like groups from big companies do, is really eye-opening. All the members are really charismatic and have great stage presence, their vocals are clean af. I'm not saying, that other groups from 4th gen don't deserve their popularity, but ateez should have been on a spotlight just as much as other groups.

5 месяцев назад
Minatozaki Sana's Boyfriend +4
Minatozaki Sana's Boyfriend

@grunge someone had to say it and how OP's comment has 31 likes is beyond me lmao. These small company stans are attention seekers and a huge pain in the ass 💀

5 месяцев назад
grunge
grunge

@Minatozaki Sana's Boyfriend yes thank you.

5 месяцев назад
S Knight +233
S Knight

Call me basic or whatever but as a rock music listener nth sounds less appealing than saying this company formed a band and debuting them. It ruined the essence of band. Bands aren’t supposed to be manufactured or “trained” like idols. They quite literally needs to be organic. Bc bands dont rllly rely on visual or outlandish pop music nor does it rlly aim for the most of the mainstream. I never get idea of idol band. Do they train to be a band?

5 месяцев назад
ireneonly
ireneonly

@Whirlywinds same

2 месяца назад
ireneonly +1
ireneonly

Thats right. But i saw some videos of day6 and they have chemistry playing together and even seem like a band. But the xdinary heroes, as a musician, it seems forced to me. It doesnt have the organic element to it.

2 месяца назад
Spiritual Snail +3
Spiritual Snail

Yeah I think the concept of an idol doesn't go with a band, which probably contributes to why it just isn't popular. For the reason you mentioned, and also the fact that the music these idol bands produce is watered down rock and ballads. You really have to search far to find those few songs that really feel rock. I still like to listen to idol bands though because I'm soft for the underrated talents who still try to keep rock alive in a pop dominated scene. Also, there's one kband that's actually self formed, Onewe, which is really nice.

5 месяцев назад
S Knight +4
S Knight

@Muhd Zaidi u can do that without having the band have the “idol feel”. Hip hop are explicit and kind of hardcore but it’s still famous in sk. Those companies just want watered down band. Sk lacks real rock band like south club. Wish we have more of those.

5 месяцев назад
Whirlywinds +16
Whirlywinds

As someone who also listens to a majority of rock, metal, and punk songs, something about their debut just felt way more manufactured then kpop groups normally feel. I’m p sure none of them knew how to play instruments or wanted to be in a kband in the first place, plus the song was just….felt like they were trying way to hard to hop on the trend of emo resurgence and stuff and the way they executed it didn’t give the vibe that the genre of music has

5 месяцев назад
The Silent Voice +128
The Silent Voice

JYPE seems to be losing its touch. I think the company peaked with Twice, and has amazing groups that will be remembered like GOT7, Stray Kidz, Itzy and the gen 2 groups. But this new generation of K pop seems very different to that era which is where k pop peaked. And the new style is to be futuristic, robotic, A.I etc Jype is more about personality, style, and each group as a colour of their own. Nmixx seems to be a blend of other group styles in one but it doesn't work. The next comeback should start fresh and adopt a new theme. I also think they need to focus on their current groups before debuting new ones. And stop leaving older groups who are profitable alone, especially when they have huge fanbases. This happened to Got7 and I can see Twice is starting to get the bear minimum done for them just because they sale well.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +1
Jordi Carvajal

@G Idol 2PM is JYP's only second generation group. If Day6 doesn't renew or disband, than Twice will be JYP's only third generation group.

4 месяца назад
XyLy Potato Head +3
XyLy Potato Head

Like Itzy is only 3 years old or something and Twice is still going strong I think they could have waited waited another year or at least a few months until debuting them. And the song is not it...

4 месяца назад
The Silent Voice +4
The Silent Voice

@G Idol I included them by saying gen 2 groups but yeah people forget about their contribution to jype.

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +9
G Idol

Idk why ppl always forget 2pm miss a and wonder girls

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +14
Jordi Carvajal

GOT7 had so much potential but JYP wasted it because they didn't let them show off their true potential. Jackson Wang even said that under JYP, he couldn't release any Korean content. Most of the members wanted to do solo activities and other activities but JYP didn't let them. Same thing with Day6, they didn't let them show off there true potential. And now GOT7 and Jae left the company and they are doing much better.

5 месяцев назад
jaymie♡ +95
jaymie♡

The problem with jyp is they've gotten too comfortable being part of the big 3 for so long to the point they think no matter what song they give to their artist's they'll immediately get soty and now that people have had enough of the bad music jyp doesn't know what to do, company is going to drop out of the big 3 in the next year or 2 if they don't change. Nmixx probably has the strongest line up from any 4th gen gg but the company is too incompetent to give them their own identity as artist's. I'm not sure why jype is so focused on nmixx having a deep (plagerised) storyline and some revolutionary concept when they could just give them good music and they'd be huge.

5 месяцев назад
Nightingale +152
Nightingale

i mean, girl's day had a trash and embarrassing debut but then went on to be a successful and well-liked group for at least around five years so i do think it might be possible for nmixx to turn things around, esp if they get a good comeback. furthermore since the bar is on the literal ground in terms of music quality, even if they release a lukewarm track as their next cb it would comparatively be worlds better. part of me almost wonders if this was all a marketing strategy along side the plagiarism scandals. because outrage marketing is almost always effective, given that negative reviews get almost 3 times the traction as positive reviews. bc unlike xoridary heroes (i think i spelled this wrong rip), everyone at least knows who nmixx is even though none of the members have been able to make any lasting impression. then again, i'm probably giving jyp too much credit, they probably just fumbled the bag trying to chase SM's curtails XD

5 месяцев назад
David Wong
David Wong

I do think NMIXX can turn things around and become one of the best 4th gen group. Their talents are all there to see. But the production team at JYP really needs to lift their game because of poor execution of their debut song O.O. Let's hope NMIXX's first comeback will be of better quality next time.

4 месяца назад
Luona John +1
Luona John

@Taengoonim like, I saw them on British headlines having the worst debut song ever of all time... Dude

5 месяцев назад
El Mayberry +2
El Mayberry

@leahhhh yeah, I was excited too... but alas 😞

5 месяцев назад
leahhhh +1
leahhhh

@Nightingale yeahh...tho i won't say I was stanning them but it's like they were the first group in a while I was excited for but 😅...

5 месяцев назад
Nightingale +1
Nightingale

@leahhhh lmaooo i feel so bad for their predebut fans XD

5 месяцев назад
the bear called panda +82
the bear called panda

Even if a debut song from the Big 3 subverts expectations, as long as it sounds good and is a little catchy, it’s gonna do well on the charts. JYP should have just let Nmixx debut with something listenable.

5 месяцев назад
Nettie Randall +8
Nettie Randall

Exactly like as long as the genera public can listen to it that’s all that matters.

5 месяцев назад
S bjbjk +154
S bjbjk

also slight note, skz debuted in 2018 they just had a predebut survival show in 2017 and released a predebut mv + album

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +4
G Idol

@pablo blobby nah the difference is that jyp didn't hype up skz like what he did with twice and itzy plus their first comebacks don't fit the general public taste like their music right now thats why they were kinda flop

5 месяцев назад
Peller Kuda
Peller Kuda

School life including pre debut album? I forgot

5 месяцев назад
Your Name +11
Your Name

@Skiptomylou Actually the mixtape was released in Jan 8, 2018 while their official debut date is march 25, 2018. What is creating confusion is that the album mixtape contained the songs that was prepared and performed by the boys during the survival show that aired in 2017. So it's safe to say they debuted in 2018.

5 месяцев назад
S bjbjk +5
S bjbjk

@Skiptomylou no i literally said it was a predebut album. their official debut date is march 25th 2018.

5 месяцев назад
pablo blobby +13
pablo blobby

Still skz did not have nearly as good reception as itzy and twice in their time, they had to win the gp through many comebacks

5 месяцев назад
kevin’s cheeseball hair +154
kevin’s cheeseball hair

Seeing that I stan more JYP groups out of all the big three, I am so disappointed with how they’ve managed their artists and music from 2021 to now. Loco didn’t do as well as expected despite it being the tt of Itzy’s first full album, Scientist kind of went unnoticed, and now with NMIXX’s debut... Idk what to say. I’m sure lots of people, myself included, were so hyped up for their debut and when they first released the trailer, we were hoping for the tt to be better than ‘fishy fishy’ but now that O.O came out, we’re all saying we like Tank better. JYPe needs to step up their game because the decline in quality is really clear to see

5 месяцев назад
riffgroove +3
riffgroove

@Jordi Carvajal Red Velvet was on hiatus due to Wendy's injury and most of EXO were in the military.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +1
Jordi Carvajal

@G Idol Irene's stylist situation, no RV comeback, no EXO comeback, etc.

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +2
G Idol

@Jordi Carvajal what happened to sm in 2020?

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +1
G Idol

@Jordi Carvajal yes their b sides and sub uinat are so much better and should've got promoted like what they did with skz😭

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +1
G Idol

@Angjele true but atless scientist choreography was better then the song itself 😭

5 месяцев назад
MxM +87
MxM

At this point, I guess the problem lies within the Divisions of certain groups. Some divisions do a better job with the groups assigned to them than others. I think they go: Division 1 ( 2PM, StrayKids), Division 2 ( Itzy ), Division 3 ( Twice, JYP ), Division 4 aka SQU4D (NMIXX), and Studio J ( Day6, Xdinary Heroes ).

5 месяцев назад
Beta
Beta

@Shining stars I meant before they got out of JYPE

Месяц назад
Shining stars
Shining stars

@Beta GOT7 didn't disband they had a comeback

Месяц назад
Jordi Carvajal +6
Jordi Carvajal

@Beta JYP always mistreats there boy groups and overworks there girl groups. GOT7 left, Jae left, and now Twice's contracts expire in October. I hope that they don't renew because they will continue to be overworked and more members will get anxiety and other mental health issues. Like looked what happened with Mina and now Jeongyeon.

5 месяцев назад
Beta +4
Beta

THIS, because Studio J has been known for how it does not manage Day6 well (and even with their mismanagement the group is still doing fairly well) so I don't have high hopes that they'll manage Xdinary heroes well. I think Got7 was under division 2 before they disbanded.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +1
Jordi Carvajal

@lauranother꧂ And who ever is in charge of there management in each division.

5 месяцев назад
Noopy P +47
Noopy P

I really liked Xdinary Heroes' debut!!! But if they don't release anything soon, I don't know if they'll be able to keep on being a group for long...

5 месяцев назад
Jorge Esco +91
Jorge Esco

Great video but you miss an opportunity to talk about how JYPE has failed NiziU in the international market, JYP literally promoted the whole Nizi Project as the project for debut an international group but so far NiziU has done anything outside Japan and that's not the international promotions we were expecting for the girls. I know that they should focus on the local market first but NMIXX are already having international promotions while NiziU biggest international promotion was the korean version of Make You Happy. Another thing that I'd like to add is that JYPE's downfall on South Korea is not 100% the company's fault, korean netizens have been very harsh on Twice since the change of concept, the Sana's controversy on Instagram was everything they need to start a massive hate against Twice which was intensified after Jihyo and Momo relationships with Daniel and Heechul were revealed + Jihyo's accusations of being feminist (is that supposed to be a bad thing?). But the truth is that korean netizens are just using those "scandals" to cover that they hate the fact that Twice are growing up, just like Taylor Swift said "male artists will never have to worry about aging but female artists know that they have an expiration date for the general public" (these weren't exactly her words but it's the topic she was talking about). The problem is, since Twice are their most popular group of all time, once they started to being hated other groups were targeted as well and the bullying accusations (Hyunjin and Lia) from last year made things worst (even if they weren't true). So yeah, JYPE's is digging it's own crave as a company and korean netizens took a shovel to help it

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal
Jordi Carvajal

@R18 But they promote there so much, more than any other group

4 месяца назад
R18 +5
R18

Like Knetz said China can't compare to Japan, and Twice is super popular in Japan.

5 месяцев назад
R18
R18

@Maliaboo What did u know about the scandal??? U never know behind the scene

5 месяцев назад
DSF +123
DSF

Every time I see Nmixx's performance's or hear one of the members vocal talents the more I disappointed I am with their debut song. Nmixx has some of the strongest vocalists that JYPE has and for them to waste it on O.O is so disappointing, if they can find a sound that suits the members vocals (because at the end of the day people should be caring/streaming an artists song more than their performances) they can completely turn around Nmixx's success.

5 месяцев назад
Small Light Bulb +94
Small Light Bulb

Finally someone is saying this. The quality of music coming out of JYP is certainly declining. At least that's my observation as a casual listener of both Twice and Itzy. They went from MUST check out their new cb to maybe, if I have nothing better to do. In LOUD it was also clear that PNation was more original and overall better than JYP in choosing songs and concepts.. I fear for those boys.

5 месяцев назад
akiraizel +1
akiraizel

agree

5 месяцев назад
m +1
m

@G Idol because i don’t want to? lmao

5 месяцев назад
G Idol
G Idol

@Imani alchohol free wasn't that heated tho

5 месяцев назад
G Idol
G Idol

@Imani Lol actually both of wannabe and mitm are basic but the genre were different u probably liked the basic genre of mitm which is good tho

5 месяцев назад
G Idol
G Idol

@m casual listener?? Why u didn't stan then

5 месяцев назад
Mia Broekmans +41
Mia Broekmans

thank you for addressing it. It's been on my mind too. For the sake of Stray Kids, though, I hope that JYP doesn't become too dependent on them bc it might put their creative freedom in danger. But we'll see I guess

5 месяцев назад
az pizzazz +8
az pizzazz

oh you listed my one true fear in that comment of yours if skz lost their creative freedom then all would be lost

5 месяцев назад
Migeru +97
Migeru

Idk the twice members were hinting for a renewal this past months + they were very vocal about "coming back soon" to the states. I think the tour helped them a lot mentally seeing the footage.

5 месяцев назад
•I'M A LOSER• +18
•I'M A LOSER•

day6 deserved better promotion from jyp. day6's music never disappointed and i love all of their albums, jyp never gave them enough support and i feel like they could have gotten much more recognition

5 месяцев назад
mina mee +89
mina mee

i agree with these statements. when jype announced they're gonna debut 3 groups in 2021-2022, the quality of the music is what worries me the most. as someone who resonates jype music the most (i stan skz and day6, semi stanned twice), it's so sad to witness xh and nmixx with meh debuts. i rlly hope their cbs this year would make up for it big time. these guys and gals are very very talented with so much potential and jype lately seems to set them up for failure. if they want them to succeed, let them be sincere in the concept jeez. it worked for twice and itzy. what happened to solid concepts and lore, jype, bring them back TT

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +2
G Idol

@mina mee sorry I didn't read the whole comment tho I would add that twice don't produce the music but they do contribute to their discography in writing process

5 месяцев назад
mina mee
mina mee

@G Idol i mentioned itzy^^ it's on the last sentence of the first paragraph. them, along with twice are the non self producing groups in jype that have sincere concepts.

5 месяцев назад
mina mee
mina mee

@MrSuperjam789 sooner than i expected, thanks for this info! jype rlly has a lot on their plate now

5 месяцев назад
MrSuperjam789 +4
MrSuperjam789

@mina mee March 2023 for that group

5 месяцев назад
Kaiquew +2
Kaiquew

@mina mee damn that's a lot of groups to work on. thx for the information

5 месяцев назад
xiaovenli +19
xiaovenli

The part about DAY6 just broke my heart as I became a fan of them right before the pandemic hit. I have so much emotional attachment to the group, I was setting aside money because I was hoping to attend a concert of theirs in the future. Seeing how the group broke down, how terribly managed they were by JYP, I have very little hope that they would stay together in the future. I wish I could’ve seen them perform together in person at least once.

5 месяцев назад
Meerah
Meerah

Omg same but im still staying im too attached to them… and i used to stan like 4 groups at once but now i cant do that i just see day6, we have to just trust the boys and wait.

Месяц назад
lili
lili

Same...

4 месяца назад
hi_vivi +56
hi_vivi

I think JYP needs to get their thing together again, and I am saying this as someone who likes almost every release from them. I don't know what is wrong with them but they have lost their North, and they really need to go back to it asap. I feel like they are trying too much to go with the trend, which is not wrong, but they are taking that thing to a whole other level, and it is not a good one. I miss old JYP.

5 месяцев назад
[sdk] +8
[sdk]

that's because JYP himself isn't the CEO anymore sadly, ever since he left the company has been underperforming

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +4
Jordi Carvajal

JYP needs more creativity, they are so traditional.

5 месяцев назад
missroses +2
missroses

Me too, old JYP was so good!

5 месяцев назад
Cassie Sawyers +25
Cassie Sawyers

I really liked xdinary heroes' debut and am anticipating their comeback. The problem is I literally found out about their debut on tiktok I had no idea they existed before that because Jyp literally gave them nothing. I think they have a lot of potential but it will depend on if they are promoted well. Jyp hasn't been promoting and managing day6 very well, especially in recent years so I fear the same for xdinary heroes. Hopefully they will learn from their past mistakes.

5 месяцев назад
petya y. +85
petya y.

Stray Kids are the only jyp group which I truly love the music they make and have never disappointed me. They are so creative and talented and 3racha are such professionalists I don't think the other groups would even make great music if given the chance to produce like them hence why the company doesn't do it imo. Except for skz idk what jype is thinking cause the others' releases have been huge let downs. The quality is lacking. If we compare Aespa and Nmixx's debuts it's literally shocking I know like you said they tried to do something like Next Level but as if the budget was 10$ it's so goofy and cringe. They are a loaded with money company but it seems like they can't afford quality

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal
Jordi Carvajal

@Solo stan 😸 JYP needs to hire better vocal coaches or get vocal coaches from SM.

3 месяца назад
Solo stan 😸 +1
Solo stan 😸

@Jordi Carvajal nah all of their song are high pitch since debut, signal or scientist are probably the only song that isn't that high pitch, other than the adlibs ofcourse

3 месяца назад
Jordi Carvajal +1
Jordi Carvajal

@Solo stan 😸 I don't understand why JYP can't make songs that suit every member not just a few. It was probably because there vocals got criticized in More and More especially Momo's vocals so JYP wanted to stay on the safe side by reducing lines to members who can't sing well.

3 месяца назад
Solo stan 😸 +1
Solo stan 😸

@Jordi Carvajal ICSM is a freaking high pitch song of course they gonna give it to 3mix

3 месяца назад
Jordi Carvajal
Jordi Carvajal

@Solo stan 😸 Nayeon, Jihyo and in some cases Jeongyeon are the only members that can sing well. The line distribution in I Can't Stop Me and The Feels were so unfair.

3 месяца назад
Who is Cat +14
Who is Cat

Everything went downhill since got7 left, they even lost their Thailand branch (they're basically in charge for SEA activities). And I agree, skz is the only group that we don't need to be worried about at the moment bc they're self produced. Groups from smaller companies got a lot more attention lately and the competition is getting intense in the industry. Debuting from the big3 is no longer guarantee a success ig

5 месяцев назад
riffgroove +20
riffgroove

It drives me crazy when people say "It isn't JYP, it's JYPE that's screwing up so badly." JYP is still primary shareholder, CCO and head director. Lee Soo Man isn't CEO at SM anymore, and he recently sold his remaining shares in the company for a truckload of money, but he still retains his Chief Executive Producer position. Which is why everything that comes put of SM still has his distinctive stamp on it. Anyone who says JYP himself isn't making these terrible artistic decisions is fooling themselves.

5 месяцев назад
Manisha jakhar +53
Manisha jakhar

I really didn’t hate o.o If they just didn’t mix two songs it would have been really good Just make the “watch how how ni how nice “ song as a separate song and the beat drop song as a different song because separated they both are really good songs but they really don’t go well together I still don’t hate the song though

5 месяцев назад
Xiaojuns eyebrows尼维'_' +1
Xiaojuns eyebrows尼维'_'

yeah i think i would have liked it soo much more if they just stuck with one of the 2 songs in it, because the really didn't mix well together its just trying to copy aespa but doing a trash job at it the reason people like tank is because its consistent and we get used to the freshy freshy thing but o.o was already weird and they didn't give us enough time to get used to it and then bam into a completely different genre it is growing on me and many others because i think we know whats coming but nonetheless i feel so bad for nmixx because they are literally so good at everything and they got this weird baila baila superhero and a coke ad in their debut song anyway

5 месяцев назад
Sabia Akthar +30
Sabia Akthar

Jyp is overproducing this is how groups get forgotten so quickly

5 месяцев назад
oceanid +18
oceanid

The way you didn’t even mention NiziU 😦. They’re literally one of the most successful amongst JYP’s newer groups

5 месяцев назад
Ezra Irene +2
Ezra Irene

Right i was waiting for them 😭

5 месяцев назад
Logan +59
Logan

you didn't lie?!! anyway, jyp needs to take accountability for their actions!

5 месяцев назад
Kenyan Bee +32
Kenyan Bee

JYP got very comfortable with being in the big 3 that they are taking everything for granted! They are just churning out whatever coz they know we stans will consume it! I feel bad for Lily, 7 years a trainee only to get this! I'm sad SKZ debuted in 2018

5 месяцев назад
Fullsun !! +6
Fullsun !!

I think ever since got7 left JYPE, they really started panicking. Before that they were at their prime with most of their groups but then they left, suffered a huge money loss and they started playing it safe, too safe that it makes them look unoriginal compared to the other big companies which are putting all their money and their creative teams fighting to dominate the industry.

5 месяцев назад
Doyoungᅵᅴ +23
Doyoungᅵᅴ

There was a time where jyp taking notes of what sm is doing, or stealing their ideas was just a joke, i dont think that it is a joke anymore, i mean, they even start to clone their idols

5 месяцев назад
Doyoungᅵᅴ +3
Doyoungᅵᅴ

@G Idol no, i mean hyujin and yeji, some ppl also say about jooyeon from xdinary heroes but im sure it was only because the pink bengs

5 месяцев назад
G Idol
G Idol

What?? clone sm idols

5 месяцев назад
VL (YBlvr) +4
VL (YBlvr)

I think this problem can be attributed to JYP's "2.0" strategy where they now assign separate promo teams to each artist or artist group. I think this is working in several "'established" artists' favours - TWICE and ITZY's teams are doing a phenomenal job of promoting them, and Wonpil's solo debut this year was high quality and successful overall despite his promotions being cut short. The younger groups (NMIXX and Xdinary Heroes) seem to be struggling because of their teams' experimentation with their songs and promotions - NMIXX is under the division SQU4D, which I think has invested in an incredible aesthetic but failed miserably at securing a GP-friendly sound for NMIXX, and Studio J has a bad track record of promoting its artists well (including DAY6). I hope the divisions learn from their mistakes and promote their artists better - I see a lot of potential in NMIXX especially that's being squandered because of poor promotion strategies.

4 месяца назад
MS B +19
MS B

JYP said “if experimental mixed sound is working for Aespa then we can do the same” but rather than doing it thoughtfully they just threw together a bunch of weird and confusing stuff and acted like it was fine

5 месяцев назад
lidiabidia +13
lidiabidia

I don’t think JYP is going anywhere, this wouldn’t be the first time they’ve fumbled the ball and managed to make it out just fine. I’m also doubtful that twice will leave? They’re in an incredible position for contract negotiations, which while I don’t know how the members are doing health wise personally, I don’t think that that’s an aspect that will be neglected from negotiations.

5 месяцев назад
Spiritual Snail +7
Spiritual Snail

I'm so salty about O.O being a failed Aespa wannabe song. The Nmixx girls seem very talented, I enjoyed watching them perform, the choreography was really cool, the outfits were phenomenal (we need to talk about their styling more. I find it incredible and very original and I'm lowkey obsessed), the MV was pleasant. They have everything... but good music.

5 месяцев назад
Casandra Espinoza +39
Casandra Espinoza

how do you go from debuting a gg with THE dalla dalla to whatever tf o.o was, in just 3 years. insane

5 месяцев назад
Vortigan 656
Vortigan 656

@G Idol Twitter is irrelevant Le sserafim and gidle gets hate all the time on Twitter yet they are still very successful

2 месяца назад
XyLy Potato Head +5
XyLy Potato Head

@G Idol dalla dalla had tons of wins and charted very well tho

4 месяца назад
G Idol +5
G Idol

Tho dalla dalla was a joke to ppl on Twitter back then

5 месяцев назад
hanae labrim +20
hanae labrim

what people don't know is JYP is a big company devided in 4 or more sections and every division does her own thing but they all have one ceo who is not the jyp that we know ( the guy gets blamed for everything ) Nmixx is under a new management division called SQUAD4 who are to blame for the poor decisions as for Day6 and Xordheros they are under STUDIO from jyp and they suck iam never gonna forgive them and so on for the other groups here is my unpopular opinion JYP should have stayed as the CEO because he was original and talented and they should hire more competent people

5 месяцев назад
evan yong
evan yong

You can gather a report of signs of fans to sent to JYP and the CEO of the fandoms of each management team that has complaints that might help us ( bosses and CEO ) to fire the director of that team . We can't just fire anybody you know 😁 . I'll let you have a hint over 227k albums sold first week we bosses are happy 😊 with squ4d so forget getting rid of their director . 50k sold means you cover the debut cost you don't hit 50k that means you get to think of reasons to cut costs 😉

5 месяцев назад
evan yong
evan yong

He can't or he will die of overworked only decisions depending on money does the board of shareholders ( includes JYP himself ) meet up then decide ( usually 6months once ) how much to put into each management team meet up ( 3% at least you get to vote ) he's the creative director which means he just put out songs or take a look at accepted songs whether the CEO or board of directors accept it is up to them ( or groups artists that have the power to decide ) 😉 . And from I saw ( I'm a minor shareholder so I get reports 😁 ) each management team get more than enough to debut 1 team in 3 months for those 6 months ( you can imagine how much each team budget is its in the millions ) that's a whole lot of money. Us bosses are already pumping that much and how you expect JYP himself to create and review songs and manage them ? Not possible.... that's why you have a CEO ( who gets paid a ton to do it as well as the management of each team )

5 месяцев назад
SL123 +32
SL123

I share many concerns. Some of these can be explained by the new leader/department I think (as far as I know, head of the squ4d is new the to the role). But my biggest concern rn has to do with JYP A&R (I think that's what they are called and putting skz aside cause they produce their music). They are responsible for sourcing the songs and voting for the songs to be the title track. There must be something seriously wrong with this quality control in JYP for a whole group of people to vote and approve NMIXX debut song that cant even enter the chart. That's a 1st for JYP gg. Not to mention, if I'm not wrong, for the whole 2021, JYP has not put out a single song reaching #1 on melon despite all the constant comebacks. This group of people is really out of touch. There are too many things to say about their management, and I feel like I can write the whole essay, so just 1 thing now, I really think JYPE should slow down and breathe. They have been prioritizing content speed since JYP 2.0 and all the comeback starts to lose its uniqueness, things are very mass-produced, not well thought through, no original ideas, I can see ideas recycled over and over across different groups and it's disappointing. They may say we do it all, look, we also have music teasers, we also have picture teasers, but they don't create much hype as other big4 groups. This is because everything feel so massed produced, not well planned in terms of ideas, art, styles, to even timing, so everything is just another video or photo passing by and it fails to make people excited and fail to catch a non-fan attention. They should just slow down, do about half or 70% of the comeback, but do every tiny thing very well.

5 месяцев назад
SL123 +2
SL123

@G Idol you miss the whole point of the discussion, but just jump to your point, yes they are, we are well aware and that's why stays are more excited about tracklist than the pic teasers cause normally stays know who is who in that list, but their song selection system is different, just among skz songs. So skz don't like it, it's not going anywhere in the 1st place, also the company supports them when they push for a song to be the title track or to be included in the album. Chan also mentioned this before about they follow different selection systems.

5 месяцев назад
G Idol
G Idol

Gurl isn't skz do work with many producers it's not like they doing it all by them selfies lol

5 месяцев назад
FS +1
FS

@SL123 Exactly, also skz is at a level where you would expect them to consistently release high quality content. I wonder how they are going to hype up the mini album, bc they don't seem to release teasers everyday after the trailer anymore. But I'm hoping for the best, so far it looks very promising!

5 месяцев назад
SL123 +2
SL123

@FS yes skz is my ult too. They are bit inconsistent in contents, which can be a mood killer and you can lose people hype and interest that way,. I think they should first try to only release high quality content. Honesty, a very good group shot can be talked about for days, people will zoom in zoom out, make edit and so on. Alot of soso pic does nothing like those noeasy teaser, noone talks about them, noone cares afterward. Stays spend more time on tracklist discussion than those photos and that shows you 1 very good pic/ teaser can go along way. Start with that, it is ok to have a break in between, then start to increase the quantity when you have the quality down. Oddinary goes well so far, they have been putting out good stuffs, so the main trailer has been attracting even more interest than the short trailer. And the time gap is clearly not a problem. They should keep it up.

5 месяцев назад
FS +4
FS

You hit the nail on the head with this comment, especially regarding the teaser photos. For example, some noeasy pictures were quite disappointing, they literally just used a plain white background ... (I’m still not over this fact.) Skz is my ult group so I‘m more familiar with their content and sometimes they positively surprise us with the high budget for certain things but some things just stay very simple, where I think it‘s really unfortunate bc it actually has so much potential. Generally I like the songs that jype puts out, but I always feel like something essential is missing for it to really be a hit that can be enjoyed by a big audience. They don‘t have to change the genre of the song to please the general public, but small details (like less shout outs of random words, more filling the song with actual sentences instead of ‚oh‘ or so) would make the song better already.

5 месяцев назад
berry +24
berry

just from the title, i couldn't agree more. the amount of groups jype is pushing out nowadays is concerning as to not many of them seem to be actually make it big. i feel bad for the new groups because they're obviously there just to try be moneymakers.

5 месяцев назад
JORDAN JOHN CARLO J. +35
JORDAN JOHN CARLO J.

I honestly think that after Itzy, the other groups that JYPE debuted is forgettable, I don't even remember XDinary heroes and Niziu if not mention on the comments

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +2
G Idol

@Just Someone no actually loco kinda flopped In Korea lol

5 месяцев назад
Just Someone +3
Just Someone

@G Idol yeah But imo it's better than both not shy and mitm. Also I heard it did a bit better than those in kr charts but idk.

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +2
G Idol

@Just Someone lol wannabe and mitm are doing better then loco tho alot of ppl hated loca and I can see why

5 месяцев назад
G Idol +4
G Idol

Niziu is doing so well in Japan so because they aren't famous outside Japan doesn't mean they are flopped of forgotten in asia

5 месяцев назад
Just Someone +13
Just Someone

I feel like everything went downhill after wannabe. With the exception of twice whose music has been getting even better, and loco which was also a better song, the quality of music in jyp has been.... underwhelming

5 месяцев назад
kamyk +54
kamyk

I really don't want to say this but I'm always forggeting that Xdinary heores even exist

5 месяцев назад
chandani kishore +6
chandani kishore

same, i literally stan them but keep forgetting about them because the members have basically disappeared

5 месяцев назад
Clasher Tim +79
Clasher Tim

Speaking facts on how Twice is holding down the company

5 месяцев назад
whatever
whatever

@ᓀ˵ᓂ true.

5 месяцев назад
ᓀ˵ᓂ +11
ᓀ˵ᓂ

Ok the thing is whenever people say "Oh jyp will fall now" and blah blah,, is the time jyp actually rose top.. I still remember Jyp failing Miss A, Suzy was the only hope . Twice debuted... Twice did good in debut although budget wasn't big However Twice saved the company at last with comeback "Cheer Up" Similarly, everybody rn is saying JYP will fall and sh!t.. Itzy, Skz, X-H and Nmixx will save in their own way.. just wait and watch!!

5 месяцев назад
m +14
m

i feel like itzy are improving and their music has gotten better in terms of b-sides! it breaks my heart that they’re kinda falling off in korea 😭 their brand rankings are really low

5 месяцев назад
m +7
m

@신Dallie they’re still falling off with streams and sales :( and i meant that their brand rankings are low even after they have a shit ton of brand deals rn

5 месяцев назад
신Dallie +1
신Dallie

One thing you shouldn't rely is the brand reputation rankings. ITZY still bagging way more brand deals with the groups before them.

5 месяцев назад
Four_seasons +16
Four_seasons

How do I send this to JYP management. I’m a JYP stan as i love their personalities the most, and I’ve been disappointed with their management and I feel so bad for their artists.

5 месяцев назад
Daniel Diaz +9
Daniel Diaz

Idk why JYPE insisted in debuting another band out of nowhere when they have already shown they do not care about bands at all, i feel bad for Xdinary Heroes, their debut wasn't my style, but i'm sure a lot more people would be interested in them if they were promoted well, I honestly feel they tried to debut these groups as soon as they could because the generations of idols are moving so fast out of the sudden and they don't know if DAY6 and TWICE are gonna be there much longer. Iwas shocked when they announced NMIXX with ITZY having less than 3 years since debut, idk, I feel like they should think more before debuting new artists, is not something easy to do, and they don't let the ones they have already grow enough

5 месяцев назад
maygreenday +4
maygreenday

I don't know much about other groups but I could speak for Day6. _“One of day6's biggest strengths was how they were able to dominate the international market at least when it came to k-bands. And since their most internationally popular member just left the group I'm unsure of their ability to keep doing that two years from now”_ Right, it *was* Day6's biggest strengths. Their *_singles_* from 2015-2017 had high positions on Billboard World Digital Song Sales Chart (like top ten) and in Korea they’re mostly absent or like at 80-90 (according to Gaon album chart). But their popularity in US was slowly decreasing starting from late 2018 and at that time Jae was still there. “Beautiful Feeling” (2018) and “Days Gone By”(2018) were only at 25th position, and “Time of Our Life” (2019), “Sweet Chaos” (2019) and “You Make Me” (2021) did not chart at all (again, we’re talking about US chart). Sure, Jae’s department will affect Day6’s popularity, but it was getting lower even before that. Also peak chart positions of Day6’s *_albums_* are high both in Korea and US. I believe that is due to big and loyal fandoms in both countries, so I think even after two years their core fans will remain. _“Three of the four members who are still in the group have all released solo music and none of their releases have done exceptionally well neither with the international nor the domestic fan bases”_ I think you’re talking about popularity among general public rather than fandom. Even now, when Day6 are recognized among Korean publics, their digital chart positions are not that high. “Time of Our Life”’s peak position at Gaon album chart was only 80 ("Sweet Chaos" – 114). Their latest release, “You Make Me”, peaked 73. But comparing to situation with digitals in 2015-2017 it’s much better because now their song are at least entering those charts. And I think fandom is playing an important role in this process. Also, if we’re talking about popularity among fans I think it’s more important to look at physical sales, because an ordinary listener probably wouldn’t buy a physical album since they could just listen to it on streaming sites. Young K sold 56,274 copies, Wonpil - 47,045 (Dowoon didn’t have a physical release). Even of Day’s latest album’s sales are 71,099 copies. Sure, that’s not _“exceptionally well”_ but is it that bad? For me it's pretty good. So even if they’re not extremely popular among general listeners, they’re still doing pretty well. _"It's really unfortunate that after all of the success of zombie the enlistment of Sungjin kind of stopped all the momentum that they had. And because they've just sort of fizzeled out afterwards I don't think that there's much of a future for Day6"_ The “momentum” was stopped not because of the Sungin’s enlistment. I just want to remind you that /*according to Wiki/* "the day before the album's scheduled release, JYP Entertainment announced that Day6 would be taking a temporary hiatus to focus on their health”. So Jae and Sungjin had to take a break due to health issues, there was no promo at all. Noone could predict "Zombie"'s success. Of course it would be great if Day6 could use that opportunity to become more famous but I think artist’s health is more important that the popularity. To be honest, I'm afraid of Day6's future too. But looking around and seeing 2nd gen groups being active and getting wins on musical shows gives me hope that Day6 could be relevant even after the long hiatus.

4 месяца назад
grunge +31
grunge

Looks like you're right about the downfall of JYPE

5 месяцев назад
Gkh Work
Gkh Work

@hanatake b/shh u so wrong about the "copying".

5 месяцев назад
hanatake +2
hanatake

Funny how their fans flexing their album sales sayin *”wiThOUt pRoMOtiOn..”* without promotion MY A55, this whole cheap publicity that jype created is actually *THE PROMOTION,* by copying many groups. So low of JYPE🤣🥴

5 месяцев назад
hanatake
hanatake

Cant wait!

5 месяцев назад
ᓀ˵ᓂ +3
ᓀ˵ᓂ

Ok the thing is whenever people say "Oh jyp will fall now" and blah blah,, is the time jyp actually rose top.. I still remember Jyp failing Miss A, Suzy was the only hope . Twice debuted... Twice did good in debut although budget wasn't big However Twice saved the company at last with comeback "Cheer Up" Similarly, everybody rn is saying JYP will fall and sh!t.. Itzy, Skz, X-H and Nmixx will save in their own way.. just wait and watch!!

5 месяцев назад
E K +12
E K

I wouldn’t underestimate JYPE too much. JYPE started in 1997 as a nugu company and rose to top 3 in the country. True story of David that became a Goliath. Huge undertaking and achievement. Do you know how many nugu companies go under every year? Too many to count. They have decades of experience and have faced harsher obstacles. Stray Kids and Itzy are rock solid with an impressive fan base. To say both groups are super talented is stating the obvious. And Stray Kids self-produce. Both are leaders for the next generation. I doubt Twice will disband. Even if some member end up leaving, I think most will stay. JYPE did fumble the ball with choice of Nmixx’s debut title song but it is nothing they can’t overcome. JYPE is lucky to have Nmixx but who do you think handpicked those killer talented Nmixx girls, trained them and brought them together as a group? It was JYPE. Nmixx debut showcase is already garnering lots of praise. I would focus more of your worry on MCND and TOP media.

5 месяцев назад
j +4
j

honestly it just comes to show that jype is more of a follower than a leader company. i would say that SM has been leading for awhile now with the trends and jype is just playing catch up

5 месяцев назад
TchShade +6
TchShade

PREACH IT!! I'm a JYP stan of sorts- Hottest, Ahgase, STAY, My Day, NSWER. And the amount of conflicted feelings I have towards JYPE is terrible. BC YEAH JYPE DOES sabotage their own groups. And it's ebcause of their quantity over quality. They have little creative direction for their artists as opposed to money making, and this lack of direction is really highlighted by the unpredictability of their artists- ONCE and JYPE stans being overfed like crazy with monotonous songs, group concepts and direction such as ITZY shifting like crazy. I feel like with ITZY, JYPE still didn't know what they wanted to do- self-love was the trend when ITZY debuted and JYPE made a monopoly off of it before it became old as a concept and went 'shit now what'. For JYPE it feels like tis about numbers. How many songs can we push, how many comebacks, albums, groups at once, revenue. At the moment, the only JYPE group that feels refreshing is STRAY KIDS because they do their own thing and 3RACHA have a real passion and direction for the kind of music they want to produce. This isn't to say the other groups are worse bc they aren't self producing, but that other groups producers don't have the group at mind, they have money and numbers in mind

5 месяцев назад
Anete Aizbalte +11
Anete Aizbalte

when twice disbands and stray kids leaves jype like got7 did, he is gong down!!!!

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal
Jordi Carvajal

I can see some Twice members not renewing. The members that will most likely not renew would be Mina, Jeongyeon, Tzuyu, and Chaeyoung. I can see Twice as OT5 in the future if some members choose not to renew their contracts. Jihyo would definitely stay because she has a strong deep of respect and loyalty to JYP.

5 месяцев назад
Busybody +4
Busybody

Honestly, for musicality, LOCO is the best even with Dalla-Dalla as contender, their vocal also mature a lot here

5 месяцев назад
Myra02 +11
Myra02

I think Nmixx also got boycotted because of the plagiarism though Hoping Xdinary Heroes doesn't get forgotten by the company tbh, they have so much potential! And compared to Day6 they have a completely different sound so I get it didn't suit the GP as much as Day6 (was much softer and made for the radio I guess?)

5 месяцев назад
pringleps +41
pringleps

I really agree with almost everything you said but i do kinda disagree on itzy cause i feel like LOCO was really succesful and brought in quite a lot of new fans :)

5 месяцев назад
Heena Dhurwe_CE32 +5
Heena Dhurwe_CE32

@the pinks are back in our area yes they lost domestic popularity ,but they gain more loyal fans ,which will help them to run long.korean public is moody and their interest always switch to one group to another ,having loyal fandom is necessary .

5 месяцев назад
pringleps +1
pringleps

@the pinks are back in our area yea I can see that oop-

5 месяцев назад
the pinks are back in our area +11
the pinks are back in our area

Tho they did lost a bit their domestic popularity and support from the gp

5 месяцев назад
grunge +1
grunge

@pringleps it's fine

5 месяцев назад
pringleps +4
pringleps

@Aarushi Chakravorty yea I know sorry I made that unclear but I feel like it still did pretty well

5 месяцев назад
Blueberry Bubblegum BBBG +10
Blueberry Bubblegum BBBG

Twice is definitely being overworked But their is a higher chances of them renewing theyre contract than them disbanding as twice has hinted that they won’t be disbanding and they’re are workaholics and have said when they aren’t working they feel jobless

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal +2
Jordi Carvajal

But I can see some members choose not to renew. I can see Mina and Jeongyeon not renewing because both had suffered from anxiety and had to go on long hiatuses. I can also see Tzuyu and Chaeyoung not renewing. Tzuyu is always mistreated and Chaeyoung's talent is always being wasted. I very don't want them to disband, I want them to leave JYPE like what Got7 did.

4 месяца назад
Summer +6
Summer

I’m convinced none of you follow Twice if you really think theyre not resigning when they made it clear they are lol. As someone who was a JYP nation stan for nearly a decade, JYP makes it very clear when groups are NOT renewing. Group comebacks dwindle, lack of group content, etc. TWICE have been dropping group releases back to back and they’ve been as active as ever with their group content (Time to Twice, etc) Like at this point it sounds like YOU dont want them to renew.

5 месяцев назад
Alex +13
Alex

I really believe JYP pumped out so many Twice comebacks last year because they won't renew. They were doing like every two months or every month the last half of the 2021. Way too much.

5 месяцев назад
Jordi Carvajal
Jordi Carvajal

@Safa Sathar Exactly. JYP is afraid that some or all members will not renew in October so they are trying to squeeze out as much juice as possible from them before there contracts expire. Also, there are rumors that Nayeon will be debuting as a solo artist soon. Jihyo said that she is against solo activities but she said that like 5 years ago, things has change. This year since this is there last year before there contracts expire in October, JYP is trying to make the most money out of them like they are on a world tour and will release a new Japanese album in July since Japan is a very profitable market for them and they are very huge there.

4 месяца назад
Safa Sathar +1
Safa Sathar

@Jordi Carvajal ur right. They are just making them most out of them, coz they knew most members wont renew the contract

4 месяца назад
Jordi Carvajal +5
Jordi Carvajal

I feel that too. JYP is trying to squeeze out as much juice as possible from them before there contracts expire because they are afraid that some or all members will not renew. 2021, Twice had 6 comebacks (3 Japanese, 2 Korean, 1 English) and now they are on a world tour which they started in Seoul, than 5 cities in the US, and now to the Tokyo Dome in April. Plus they will release a new Japanese album in July and we don't know when they will have another Korean comeback or another English single. Jeongyeon is still going through anxiety for more than a year and she isn't getting enough rest because she is also jumping back and forth from resting to promoting.

4 месяца назад
SparkSparkle +8
SparkSparkle

Indeed, Jyp does not know what they are doing at all, Its a mess and you explained it so perfectly.

5 месяцев назад
Diva Boo +4
Diva Boo

If Twice disbands I am not sure if JYPE will remain as a big three company. I agree that Stray Kids, ITZY and 2PM will be just fine, but as you said Stray Kids can't carry this company. 2PM are a significantly old group (2nd gen) so I am not sure how long they'll be around, though I really hope they stay together for a long long time. ITZY will be fine as well. They'll be the second most popular group in JYPE. Also, it's so sad that Day6 has to meet such fate. They were such an amazing band and their music was top class. I don't think there will be a contract renewal. NMIXX and Xordinary Heros just don't have a stable future as of yet. And with the LOUD group, I think JYPE (and PNATION) delaying the debut so much is not a good idea. They have lost all the hype they had during the survival show. The whole hype will have to be rebuilt and I am not sure how good it'll turn out. GOT7 ain't around anymore so who's gonna save this company. Hope everything turns out well though. The groups deserve so much.

4 месяца назад
Stacie +5
Stacie

I feel like a lot of people are throwing the baby out with the bathwater after O.O. it's only 1 song and NMIXX still have their whole careers in front of them to show the world their very clear and obvious talent. Itzy is popular and continues to put out good music (Loco was a hit in Korea whether you like it or not), TWICE is just TWICE, they do no wrong in the eyes of the gp. Stray Kids are swiftly becoming one of the most successful boy groups in kpop, definitely the top of 4th gen. Xheros are, like NMIXX, barely into their career. I really don't think there are any indications that JYP is on the verge of catastrophic failure nor is there evidence that the music is going down hill... do I like JYP, no, but am I going to claim the whole company is dying because of 1 flop debut, also no. Also, JYP is notoriously bad at promoting their boygroups. Got7 being mismanaged, Day6 never being fully promoted, and Stray Kids having to do everything on their own is evidence of this. That being said, those groups still put out good music and gained fans.

5 месяцев назад
Nomix +5
Nomix

I agree YG has always been doing the swaggy style since long ago, it’s just it happens that the world music trends nowadays is pretty hip hop influenced, that’s why BP got really popular SM has been doing these experimental thing with mixes of multiple genres mashed together since way back then n they stick with it They don’t get influenced by what the hip hop trend but they don’t A week ago when a friend of mine showed me RV‘s fmrhyhtm, I feel like that’s what mix of genres done together supposed to sound like, SM has been doing it for so long they know the formula to that type of music I really hope JYP gonna step up their game with NMIXX comeback cz that O.O thing really shows the huge gap between JYP n SM in terms of that kind of music

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