What's really impressive is that you were able to find a board where the squares are too small for both sets of pieces.

This lol

Bro the board being so small pissed me off 💀

😂😂😂😂

​@@masterlimegaming7095 not as bad as "fixing" an off-center piece to an even worse position like c3 at 1:20

I think they were tiny because it wasn’t an actual board. I’m pretty sure they were playing on a wooden table that had a chess board engraved or marked over the top of the wood

It's impossible for the checker pieces to checkmate the king, because the king can always just stay on the light squares

they’d just capture the king in this case. checkermate?

@@megascrub3054 if they have him on a white square then that should still be impossible

I guess they would have to agree that a king checkers piece can also jump directly to left, right, up and down.

If the checkers make a queen then it's possible, no?

The checkers can always get to the other side of the board and be kinged. That way they can somehow make a barricade around the king because doesn’t a kinged checker move horizontally or vertically?

I like how all the king has to do is either hug the wall or go on a light square to draw. Truly an unstoppable move

Bro can travel along the white squares all the way into the backline of the checkers pieces and start destroying them from the flank

If you can get enough checkers, you can play a trap with the king King on a light square => a checker on an adjacent dark square => a king checker on the other side of the board => the chess king captures a checker => a king checker captures the chess king

The only way this is fair is if it’s 1 king vs a whole board of checker pieces. Even then, the checker pieces lose.

Dad?

hats because they play wrong Checkers the right ones have two lanes filled completly instand of 3 lanes filled only in half

As a kid I figured Chess pieces would be far more powerful because of their movement, turns out I was right but the checkers being unable to capture someone against a wall is almost as big a deal

bone apple tea

bone app the teeth@@GDNashit

Checkers can beat chess, but the person who controls the checkers will have to be more intelligent and strategic A disadvantage of the game of checkers is that chess can skip moves using the bishop located on the square where it has the color in which the checkers are not located. I wrote everything translating from Portuguese to English because I'm Brazilian, so sorry for any mistakes

@@Werlin12it's impossible for checkers to win, as the king will always be able to move to a light square, which the checkers pieces cannot attack - unless there was a some rule restricting the king's movement, or a different win condition, checkers will basically always take an L

I'd love to see you guys replay this without the timer. Just see how the match ends when both sides have time to strategize.

Chess player wins. Now you know.

Especially since Mr. Chess wasted at least 10 seconds fidgeting with the pieces AFTER hitting the timer.

I know right? The timer is just annoying

yeah i was never a fan of timers in general but 60-secs one is way too bad

Checkers never wins so long as chess keeps king on a wall where a checkers piece can’t capture it. Chess will either capture all checkers pieces or force a draw.

I love how brutal, and yet, gentle this game was. kudos also, there could be extra rules, like, if a checker reaches the end, it turns in to queen, and pawn turns in to checker, that would be fun, lol

Actually if the pawn would reach the end he would become a queen, but she is a fake and in fact a bishop. So checkers would become true queens while pawns would become fake queens.

or just promote checkers to a bishop+king

If you ever feel useless, remember that the white bishop exists

You can call it light-square bishop

@@MrDiceZack i guess it’s better to call it that since not all chessboards are black & white, thanks

it's actually not as useless as you might think, you can use it to skip moves which is pretty important in some situations

Its a lava lamp

@@jobechan2306 Exactly. The light-squared bishop prevents them from getting into zugzwang.

Checkers would be interesting to have as a piece included in your starting chess pieces (like maybe you replace the knights or bishops, or you play with a 10x10 board), but a whole board of them makes it next to impossible to checkmate the king, since they can stand on the other color squares.

I mean you Kinda have that in chinese chess as the Canon - its fun :D

Some Buffs I might suggest: Bishops could have the ability to move (but not capture) one space orthogonally, giving them the ability to attack on both colors. The Checkers player, rather than placing the chips on one color on the three starting ranks, completely fills those ranks with chips, thereby having chips on both colors. No calling checks or checkmate. The Checkers player can perform en passant, but unlike pawns, they jump 2 spaces diagonally over the threatened space the pawn jumped over when capturing. This En Passant move cannot be chained with any other capture, it must only be used to capture that pawn. While the chess player loses when the king is captured as per usual, the checkers player loses if all of the chips on one color is gone and the king manages to move to said color

why would you buff chess?

@@tubegerm6732 it's a buff made solely for this variant

@@navyntune8158 That would only be useful for the white bishop since the white bishop can't do anything, but even when you take that into account, overall checkers are MUCH weaker, even with chess having 1 useless piece it's still far stronger, imo checkers needs a buff instead lmao

@@thricicle2865 alright hold on I'm editing my comment for a bit

@@navyntune8158 yeah, but chess is already op. even if you included your buff to checkers, and not your bishop buff, there's no way that checkers would ever win.

Very cool concept. Earlier I tried this with myself but with a fourth row of checkers pieces and that same amount of checkers pieces on dark and light squares (32 total) vs chess without a queen. Even then checkers never stood close of a chance against chess pieces

No way doubling the pieces vs no Queen is still a lose! LOL

Exquisite gameplay between both grandmasters. Amazing indeed, I wish for more of these type of games being played over the top tournament.

I would never think of doing something like this, interesting to watch, but I think chess would always have the advantage. The checkers have some interesting combo movements, but they are very specific situations, the normal thing is that the checkers are only pawns that move and attack diagonally while chess has pieces that attack and move in all directions.

imagine being the white bishop

Because of that it's draw?

@@One_Man_Two_Face i think he meant that the white colored bishop does nothing

The white bishop can't take any checker pieces. It only moves on white squares

@@Z_kun11 thats why

Долгожданное обновление в шахматах, они сделали колоборацию с шашками

Кроссовер тысячелетия

Согл

i just love how it is impossible for the king to be checkmated if he just stays on its staring square, or any light square

A truly remarkable game by both players

With one minute timer it ended up being a who can move faster challenge; but the chess pieces are so much more powerful than the checker pieces it's not a battle it's a slaughter.

Well, the thing that makes it a slaughter is the fact that it's straight up impossible for the checker player to win as they cant capture on white titles, so as long as the king is moved onto a white tile the best the checker player can do is draw the game.

This sounds impossible for checkers, if you can get in a position with all on white spaces except 4 on the back line to avoid checker's kinging, then a rook can blaze down one side, round the back, and you're at a huge advantage just in numbers while knowing a piece is only in danger if you move it over to black, which you can guarantee a trade for. That said, its a cool idea and with some balance it could be fun, like the custom all knight gamemode or something. Edit: in fact because you can't take backwards unless kinged, the rook getting to the back line means it can take everything for free. Queen does the same. Literally just open up Queen, go diagonal as far as you can, then up the side and take everything.

I love the little handshake at the beginning and end of the game. Such distinguished players, almost brings a tear to my eye

@@InconsistentConsumptions cringe

? its normal

@@lx4302 For distinguished players yes. When I play chess with my friends I can't help but flip the board over when I get en passant'd

Common tournament courtesy

Those were the weakest most pathetic unmanly handshakes I have ever seen. Those handshakes shouldn’t make you almost cry.

The random illegal move that no one questions because of time trouble is great.

Specify the move so that we may address it in the comments.

@@robertveith6383 the backwards capture from the checker

Never mind the fact that the Checkers player started with four extra pieces. What a cheater!

@@E-102_Gamma I somehow didn't even notice lol

@@kylegrefe4399 some checker variations do allow pieces to capture backwards though

Bishop and Queen kind rule this game. Being able to threaten multiple pieces at once is really good.

plus the fact you cant take the king as checkers players, since it just sits on light squares

It kills me that this doesn't end with the checker player saying "king me" and the chess player putting the king'ed checker into checkmate

I think checkers pieces should be allowed to jump over any enemy in any of the 8 adjacent squares. Since checkers pieces normally can't go to the light squares anyway, I think this isn't a stretch

Это гениально, каждая из сторон имеет свои преимущества и недостатки

What I got out of this is, don't bring checkers to a chess fight.

Just Like Don't Bring A Knife To A Gun Fight.

@@josephseansunga6361 💀

​@@josephseansunga6361 Actually Knigths Armors where ironicly strong aguints bullets, So maybe its a Good idea after all

@@Darkpq1742 Errrr, I would take a look between 16th and 17th century. Guns basically removed armour from the equation for a long time. Being able to break through the breastplate

@@avatarmufasa3628 Hmm, Very true But also the quality of both bullets and Gun (And type of gun, Plus the range when shot) mathered a lot (But this is not saying that A Cheap knigth armor could work, Since normaly it needs to be extremly good quality to not break) I think the Main problem whit the armor i just realised is that It affects more in Mobility too and where the bullet lands..And a shield could be too slow to be effective And could just be flanked, Depends on the terrain to (Like the Famus "Bring a Knife to a gun figth, Terrain time and other factors mathered a lot too) I def see your point do

Truly one of the games of all time

Batalha épica de Damas vs Xadrez de 1 minuto! Caramba essa foi interessante!

That was so fast bro, good work to both of you

Combine go with checkers and add a few pieces, then edit a few rules, and suddenly it's pretty fair. I'm currently working on balancing these games against each other (along with xianqi and shogi).

From what I understand playing shogi, shogi is like chess but you can resurrect pieces

@@novarender_ shogi is like chess but 10x more confusing

Someone already tried balancing Shogi & XiangQi so it can fight Fabulous FIDEs (Chess) Look up Shinobi & Synochess in Pychess

Would be fun to see this game play out with longer time controls.

It's basically unwinnable for the checkers. They essentially can't checkmate as long as the chess player defends the back rank, since the King will always be able to escape to a light square.

Light squared bishop: *why are we still here, just to suffer*

LOL

only 1 reply and it was 6 hours ago, now 2 replays

@@DavidV11 hitting you with a reply after ~2 minutes

@@praizq ok

@@DavidV11 Hitting you with a reply after 52 minutes

If orthogonal jumping is added and a Checker promotes to moving like a Checker a king and jump capture in 8 directions, I found it to be about 1 point more value than a Knight or Bishop, due to ability to multijump, provided jump is a must do move. Place them in front of the Knights and move the Knights pawns up one space. Knights pawns move one space forward as their first move if they do not make a capture move.

But, it's *not* "to be added," else it fails to be a rule of checkers.

I remember playing checkers against a kid at my old school who was really good, I was so confused I didn't even win a single game.

Наконец-то, достойный соперник, наше сражение будет легендарным!

The legendary crossover we didn't need, but was awesome

Esto va a ser épico papus 😎✨

*Moves to white square* Checkers: *EEEEHHHHH???!!?! IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!*

You'd have to let the checkers capture vertically or horizontally

@@RobertChambers1522 I once read a comment which said "There is NO rule in chekers that you cant capture pieces horizontaly or verticaly, this just never happens because in chekers you cant move to a white square at first." Idk if its true i never read chekers rules but if true, in theory. You coud take the white pieces in those directions and jump to the next black square.

@@Nochabon Maybe with that additional rule the game would be a bit less unbalanced.

​@@Nochabon oh yeah I like this idea: There's no evidence in checkers rules AGAINST that expansion. Nice.

​@@nicbentulan it's known as the "there's no rule that says dogs can't play basketball" -clause.

If you want to give checkers a leg up since chess _easily_ destroys it, you could say that checkers can jump pieces sideways and/or vertically, just as long as there's still an empty square on the other side. I'd only do it sideways, but that's just me.

This is way more intense than I expect

Finally, a colab that I’ve always wanted.

Это лучшая партия ,которую я видел

Wow this unexpected outcome needs some a round of applause 👏

I think to make the game a bit more fair, white should remove the queen and 2 pieces, and the checkers goal to win the game is to somehow reach the other side of the board. I tried doing this concept with my classmates and its actually fun Edit: So we kind of updated the rules on this with my classmates after a few games. Patch 1.1 - When one of the checker's pieces get blocked off by a chess piece, the chess piece gets removed after 2 moves to avoid stalling and preventing the checker's piece from reaching the end. - There are now 2 WAYS the checker's pieces can win. Either the king gets captured, or one of the pieces reach the end of the board. - The light squared bishop gets removed, along with the queen and a knight. Patch 1.2 -Checkers team will now have their own 2 queens in the back. Meaning the 2 pieces will be used like a bishop but the mechanics of how they take piece will remain the same as checkers. This may seem outlandish and could ruin the game but we had to think of balancing the game somehow. So far this was the best solution we could think of while playing, Me (chess) lost to checkers a few times. (Chess3-4 Checkers). - Re-added the white squared bishop (for fun) - Checkers will now be the first to attack instead of chess. - If one of the checker's pieces manages to reach the end of the board, and a chess piece is blocking the way, they can take the piece after a move. (This one had the most impact on balancing the game) Sorry there haven't been many updates, school has been getting cancelled lately due to rain and heat (I live in the Philippines lol) I will take feedback from the comments and update the rules by trying it out with my friends and classmates to make sure the game is fair. So if you want to suggest anything, tell me!

That's a nice idea.

I think to make it more fair the checkers should be replaced with chess pieces

@@joshuad3914That’s a nice idea.

That's absolutely brilliant

Someone made a video where they kept adding rules until it was more fair

This entire concept made me laugh that throat-scratchy laugh out loud once but at a good audible level.

You even got it down to the limp handshake, congratulations! 😄

That was way better than I thought it would be !

They really made the battle of chess and checkers. This is something interesting. This idea is never comes to me before

Starting the checkers player off with a bunch of kings rather than pawns makes a tremendous difference. (non-checker players, note the size difference in the pieces, it's not an illegal move late-game).

“Infinity war is the most ambitious crossover in history” Me:

lol

Overused joke and I'm all for it

Those that can't understand infinity war or Endgame live in a wet dream land 😅😂😅😂

Also isn't Infinity War not even a crossover?? They were all already in the same universe, they just.. met up, but it wasn't a "cross-over".

​@@channellastname3527Don't expect any logic from redditors, my guy.

That was pretty interesting. I'm gonna challenge some friends to one of these games now😅

I've gone my whole life never playing checkers and at this point it's become a fact I find amusing ... but now I finally have to learn how to play so I can understand the humor here 😂 (I mean, I can make some inferences by watching, but I def don't understand the ending ... Wait nvm, they flagged, I get that part, but I'd like to know how it theoretically could have gone otherwise)

0:15 They missed en passant (◞ ‸ ◟ㆀ)

the light squared bishop is me during group activities

Honestly, the tiny time limit of 1 minute makes this more difficult (Namely for the checkers player, as there's less options on what to move, thus there are way less GOOD moves to be made) and a bit less fun in my eyes. To be fair the end part where time ran dry and everything happened super quickly was real funny though. Still, very cool concept.

2:00 i dont think you can move backwards unless its a king but you haven't promoted one checker to a king yet

That’s what I thought lol

Depends on what variation are you playing, chekers variate a lot in diferent countries. Theres one or multiple variations where you can move backwards.

The standard rule is that you CAN move backward if you are capturing a piece

​@@Laecutie No, it is not. Standard Checkers, AKA Draughts, does not allow a backwards move of any kind unless the moving piece is a king. There may be variations of Checkers that allow it, but standard Checkers does not.

@@hypercubemaster2729 I guess I'm wrong then...? That was the checkers I grew up with, we even had tournaments here with that exact rule, maybe our checkers is just a variation

Me and my brother tried this once, but to make it more fair, we gave checkers both sets and filled their light squares too

I always thought this would be, like, the ultimate showdown

This is probably the most entertaining sportsmanship I've seen

Yea

Top 10,000 batallas mas épicas y esperadas del siglo

Variant: The chess king is in check if a checkers piece can hop over him orthogonally, as well as diagonally. The checkers pieces can't actually capture orthogonally under any circumstances, but the chess king is extra vulnerable now.

King moves at white spot... King: I am invincibile!

Just a questions cuz I'm not familiar with the rules and mechanics of checkers, but doesn't any chess piece that has the ability to go to a white square basically turn invincible?

​@@Back-Track yes

​@@Back-Track yes and no. Only the bishop on the white space is truly invincible. Other pieces has a chance of being captured in one way or another

The king is in the back anyway, the checkers cannot pass end field pieces as they cant hop past them

Draw

It's like an army putting down a rebellion in the medieval ages 😅

Everybody talking about light squared bishop’s uselessness yet no one talks about how safe it is 😅

Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!

A masterpiece

0:56 he adjusted his pieces after he pressed his clock ☠️

0:18 checkers player couldve ent passanted

there was no square to land on, so no

@@dantheman2415 lmao its a joke

Holy hell

En passant is not a checkers rule, its a chess rule

​@@HalalUser_1602 oh really

To solve the inconsistency of having chess pieces in one color that can not be used by checker pieces there should be two sets of checker pieces playing against a set of chess pieces

Да, именно этого мне не хватало в час ночи

The most legendary battle of all in board history

such an incredible opening

This feels like a fever dream...

We actually tried this last night on a whim. I figured that other people would have tried and here we are😂 we did remove so chess pieces to make the number of pieces equal

how it feels for a grandmaster to play a normal person

Turns out, playing chess vs checkers is exactly what it looks like A fight between humans and roombas

That's hillarious, I want to try that!😂😁

Impressive, you have managed to do the impossible, a proper handshake.

Any chess piece on a light square or against the wall is invincible lmao

I love how is (At least) a forced draw if you let your king in a white square

Brings whole new definition to, "He was playing checkers, but I was playing chess."

To make it fair make all the squares filled with checkers pieces, and allow checkers pieces to make multiple jumps in a turn giving them the capability of taking multiple pieces a turn.

That Bishop Killstreak 💀

I've done this before and to be fair,quite fun actually this is.

The best cross over in history 🎉🎉🎉

I think something like this could really be expanded upon.

I think they should allow checkers to en passant light squares pieces to make it more fair

Checkers would need to be buffed and chess needs to be nerfed. Maybe letting checkers capture like pawns once per turn. The knight is OP, it can sit on a light square and attack dark squares hoping over pieces, maybe have the pattern changed to 2 squares in one dimension. Take out the light square bishop. The king and queen has to be always on dark squares.

I like the idea of adding them on the 3rd rank of the board on dark squares, making the opening chaotic, and then having them the ability to not only jump over friendly pieces but also check the king even if the king isnt even anywhere near the checkers piece if its positioned in a way that allows it. If they promote they essentially become sort of a side grade to the bishop.

I thought about starting with checkers on light and dark squares, the same area as the chess side. Someone also mentioned kinged checkers being able to move 1 square in any direction or just to change square-color. Also, apparently according to checkers' rules you can capture up, down, left or right -- simply that in checkers an opponent would never be on a light square. Combine these with the ability to multijump-capture and they might stand a chance.

Having the checkers player start with three solid ranks of pieces, instead of 4 ranks of dark square pieces, is the most obvious first step. From there you can add further tweaks depending on how balanced it is.

Not me expecting an en passant after that third move 😂

the checker should have an extra rule where they can jump over themselves in order to go on the final rank faster or capture their opponent while jumping and the checker's king should be able to jump over light squares

if the king stays on its starting square, it can't be captured. not only that but one of the losing conditions in checkers is not being able to move any pieces so all the chess side has to do is arrange the pieces in a way that they can't be captured and move pieces on the light squares until the checkers side runs out of moves.

i love how insane it got at the end

damn i am really out here living my life like the white bishop in this match

This is how 200 elo players learn chess

The ultimate Battle we all needed

Wow! Chess modding community is insane!

When you have lost half your set of chess and checkers but still want to play:

Milenniums of battles of chess and checkers starting in India, migrating Arabia, Europe and the rest of the world. All these wars led down to this very moment... until we found out.... ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHECKMATE THE KING

it would have been sick to see that triple jump, king capture

the smartest physics kid vs the smartest math kid in class

1:59 Only a checkers Queen can take backwards, or on your second jump if you do a double-jump.

Queen on the opposite side is an instant win 😂

Checkers: When you spend all your points on Encirclement instead of Close-Quarters Combat