Lectric XP 2.0 vs RadMini - Battle of the best value folding ebikes

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Ed A. +17
Ed A.

I have a Lectric V1 with 4" tires and 9.6ah battery with Samsung cells. So far at 500 miles it's been flawless. My brother has a Rad Rover. Even though the Rad has a larger battery the range is similar. He's also 30 lbs lighter than I am (I'm 200 lbs). The front suspension on the Rad makes it a bit softer on washboard gravel roads but the difference is small. No difference at all on normal gravel or pavement. We both use decent suspension seatposts. I also extended my handlebars 1" per side and put on better grips, seat and pedals. Total cost for the upgrades was about $125. IMO front suspension for the 4" tire version is unnecessary. Range has been surprising. I've done 2 range tests, both at PA2. First one was on about 40% gravel roads and yielded 51 miles. Second one was on about 20% gravel roads and yielded 57 miles. That said I use considerable pedal power and was once a bicycle racer (but that was long ago and am 71 now). PA3 distance is about 30% less and if you use throttle only you most likely won't even get half of that. Why people buy an electric bike and use throttle only is a mystery to me. The best thing you can do for yourself is exercise. Keep moving or watch yourself wither away.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thanks for sharing your experience Ed!

7 месяцев назад
skaybaltimore +14
skaybaltimore

Thanks for this comparison. I'd actually forgotten how heavy these bikes are. About 6 weeks ago I purchased a Zhengbu K6 for a total to my door price of $950. It supposedly has a 400w nominal rear hub motor, 1 gear/no derraileur, and 3 levels of power assist. It has a battery inside the down tube like the XP 2.0 that's 48V/10.4ah. (And a second battery & charger can be purchased for around $300.) The bike, with the battery, weighs about 40 pounds. That's a big difference. I have 2 other E-bikes -- a Yamaha Urban Rush and an Ariel Rider M Class. I racked up over 3,000 miles on those 2 bikes, prior to CV19. So far I have ridden around 300 miles on the K6. At first I wasn't thrilled with the K6 because all the hype surrounding the bike focused on its "graphene/LiOn battery" and it's regenerative battery ability, and I didn't find either of those claims to be valid. It still takes several hours to recharge the battery and I don't find any regenerative ability at all. It's also set up for European countries with km/h only and right brake lever/front brake mode. But the more I've ridden it the more I like it. It's become my go-to bike. I weigh 220 pounds and I live in an area where the terrain is very hilly. I can ride 21 miles with 1,000' of climbing with a liberal use of the highest pedal assist and lots of throttle, at an average speed of 15mph, +/-, on a single charge. But if I modify the route and add 6 miles with 600' additional feet of climbing, I need 2 batteries to complete the ride. (I was easily able to add a 13x19x11 "milk crate" onto the provided rear rack and it holds the second battery, plus a lot of other stuff, with no problem.) On flatter shorter multiple rides around my neighborhood using lower pedal assist modes and less throttle I was able to get close to 45 miles in range on a single charge. I haven't used my car to shop at Costco or Walmart since I got the K6. I also used the K6/milk crate to haul/fill up a 2.5 gallon gas container, and drop off a 35 pound battery at Auto Zone to recycle it. It's extremely versatile. My Yamaha has no throttle, and the Ariel Rider has a half throttle on the left grip. But the half throttle is only active when the power assist level is set to 0. On the K6 the throttle is active in all three levels of power assist. The suspension on the K6 is rudimentary and my weight has got to be more than it was designed to handle but it is the most comfortable bike I own. On all my other bikes I have to stand up when going over speed bumps and road imperfections. But on the K6 I can stay seated. It's not perfect by any means but every time I think: "Maybe I should have gone with the XP 2.0 or the Rad Mini I'm snapped back to reality when I remember how much those bikes weigh. The magnesium allow frame and smaller wheels/tires contribute to the light weight of the K6. There are lots of choices out there and that's to the consumer's benefit. I simply wanted to post this to provide a little context. Ride safe.

8 месяцев назад
Bill Clark +2
Bill Clark

@skaybaltimore thanks for writing your opinion on the bikes you own because weight is something I am considering as very important. But I'm very curious on how you're locking up your bike to avoid thieves? I would think there would be a built-in GPS so that you could track it if it's stolen.

6 месяцев назад
skaybaltimore +2
skaybaltimore

@Ebike Escape You're welcome. I have no affiliation whatsoever with the K6 company, and in fact my review of the K6 wasn't exactly well received over at ampridesusa. Oh well. I call 'em like I see 'em. Thanks for recognizing that I wasn't trolling. (Interestingly, I've been watching videos about Brompton electrics and while I appreciate the quality of those bikes, when I look at their price, and the price of the K6, I just smile to myself and look forward to riding the K6.)

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Thanks for sharing your in depth experience! I agree that weight is not considered enough.

8 месяцев назад
Bob Dinsmore +40
Bob Dinsmore

I got the Lectric 2.0 step through Nov. 2nd and got the Black Friday special for $949 and $200 worth of extras. I’ve been riding it 20 miles every day and love it so much I feel like I’m cheating on my wife.

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

That's great Bob, thanks for watching and commenting!

5 месяцев назад
Lynn Wagner +21
Lynn Wagner

I liked the details you covered when comparing the bikes. I agree that most buyers aren't considering some of the key things you exposed, such as, total weight and step-through ease, which are critical for smaller, older riders. Thanks!

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thanks for watching Lynn!

8 месяцев назад
Terri Whitehead +3
Terri Whitehead

We found your videos very helpful as these were the two bikes we were comparing for purchase. We decided on two Lectric Bikes; XP 2.0 and XP 2.0 Step Thru. We really appreciate your level of detail as it's informative and entertaining without too much detail. Thank you!

Месяц назад
belsaraj +14
belsaraj

I would have loved to see them side by side when folded.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Ah yes, I should have done that! Sorry about that.

7 месяцев назад
Altema22 +27
Altema22

VERY in-depth video! The Lectric is less expensive, and even though the wiring is external, it's tucked away neatly, giving the Lectric a cleaner appearance. The painted metal fenders do look nice, but in my experience, they also dent and bend. There's not much difference is the acceleration, so you'll be fine with either one. Something to consider though, is climbing long hills. The Lectric has the controller and battery enclosed in the frame with no ventilation, and I seen several Lectic XP's overheat and shutdown on long hills. The Rad controller is external and breathes freely, and it seems the motor handles stress better without shutting down. I've personally abused a RadMini in testing, holding it at full throttle for miles, then going up a long steep hill on motor only, not pedaling at all. The Rad did fine and I could not get it to overheat or shutdown in purpose.

8 месяцев назад
Capt America +2
Capt America

too bad the break

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +4
Ebike Escape

Thanks Altema! Good point regarding the controller and battery.

8 месяцев назад
Rick King +22
Rick King

Great video. Was surprised you did not mention the stock folding pedals that come standard on the Lectric XP 2.0. Had my Lectric for about a week now and absolutely love the bike. Keep the great videos coming!

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hi Rick, good point. I thought the pedals were actually pretty nice. Not very smooth to fold but I like that they are larger than some other folding pedals. Glad you are enjoying your XP 2.0 and thanks for watching!

8 месяцев назад
Tom From North Carolina +1
Tom From North Carolina

Great video you guys. I thought a comparison of features and components was just terrific. Well done.

29 дней назад
Selene Perez +12
Selene Perez

Great video! I would buy the mini hands down. Great customer service, loads of accessories, better components, long established company, bigger suspension is a big deal for me as I like to venture off the concrete path..

8 месяцев назад
C&L E
C&L E

We just bought two Lectric 2.0 bikes and our only complaint was the FedEx shipping. I complained to Lectric about something they didn't necessarily have any control of and they immediately responded with two phone holders. So far, we are very pleased with everything.

Месяц назад
6'6150IQWhiteBear +4
6'6150IQWhiteBear

@Casey Crisler if u don't mind what happened? I'm comparing these 2 and the Friend

5 месяцев назад
Casey Crisler +3
Casey Crisler

I just bought an XP 2 last month and their customer service already pissed me off. I may sell the barely used Lectric and buy the Rad. I don’t want anything to do with Lectric anymore.

6 месяцев назад
Selene Perez
Selene Perez

@Ebike Escape my pleasure and love your videos!

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Thank you and thanks for sharing your perspective.

8 месяцев назад
B S +8
B S

Ive got the 1st version of the Lectric. I ride it alot. I love it. Ive had zero problems with it so far. I want to get another ebike soon. Thanks for the comparison.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Always good to hear from other owners! Thanks for checking the video out.

7 месяцев назад
Otis Hohimer
Otis Hohimer

Great review. Absolutely helped me decide on the XP 2.0. For the money and performance it's a much better ebike. Thank you

3 дня назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad I could help!

2 дня назад
Michael Goulding +1
Michael Goulding

Great review with lots of information to help choose which bike to go for. I just ordered the Lectric XP 2.0, so looking forward to trying that out when it arrives. One note. The discount link says you can get a 25% discount on the comfort package, but that doesn't seem to work. Says you don't need a code, but I wasn't able to get a discount when I ordered the bike with the suspension pack.

Месяц назад
James Dupont +10
James Dupont

We got both Rad mini’s a month ago and put 150 miles on them. We upgraded the pedals and added gel seat covers for a little more comfort. Other than that, the Rad bikes are fun to ride everywhere - and I can noŵ go for 10 miles rides in around an hour, rarely using throttle.

8 месяцев назад
Gerald Scott +1
Gerald Scott

I want to go for 20 mile rides in residential areas and on bike paths using NOTHING BUT THE THROTTLE.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

That's great to hear, both that you're really putting on the miles and that you are using the throttle less for more exercise. Thanks for sharing your experience.

8 месяцев назад
Denise K +1
Denise K

Thanks for a great comparison! I'd be interested in your heights and comfort levels on the 2 bikes. I'm 5' 3" and test rode a rad bike; it felt a little big and a bit uncomfortable for me.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Which Rad did you ride? I think the RadMini and Lectric XP 2.0 are pretty similar accessibility-wise. We've had shorter riders on both (4' 11" I believe).

3 месяца назад
Chip Sushidog +6
Chip Sushidog

Thanks for the comparison. I just ordered 2 Lectric XP Step-throughs this morning, 11/15. They are having a Black Friday sale, where if ordered before Black Friday you get a bike, the suspension seat post, the wider, more cushioned seat, the bike lock that attaches to the water bottle mount, and the larger headlight, all for only $949 with free shipping! These accessories and bike normally add up to $1,199, saving you $250. They were backordered for a long time, but they are in stock now, while supplies last. I was leaning toward the Lectric anyway because of the included rear rack, saving another $79/bike. But most importantly, we like the higher carrying capacity of the Lectric, which we will make use of, as we will use it occasionally as a grocery getter and plan on carrying an extra battery with us when needed too, not to mention that we are heavier, 65 yr olds, buying these bikes to help us loose a few and get in better shape.

6 месяцев назад
aurora571000 +1
aurora571000

@Chip Sushidog Is it a problem with the seat adjustment which controls the length from seat to pedal? Or a problem with her leg/knee strength? RV with Tito has very clear directions about these adjustments etc on Lectric bikes.

2 месяца назад
aurora571000
aurora571000

@Chip Sushidog Thanks! Are you sure that would do it?

2 месяца назад
Chip Sushidog +1
Chip Sushidog

@aurora571000 I can pedal mine fine but my wife is having trouble pedaling hers. I think I'm going to have to buy some shorter crank arms for her as she can't bend her knees enough to make a complete circle with the pedals.

2 месяца назад
aurora571000
aurora571000

I am also a mid-60s with some weight to lose (5’6” woman, 220#)I was wondering how heavier people would do balancing on the short wheels. I also have realized that movement is very important as we age. Been going to physical therapy a lot lately. I have been watching those older than me with no strength in their legs. It causes a lot of problems that I want to avoid. How are you doing with your Lectrik 2.0?

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

The Black Friday deal is really great! I hope you enjoy your new ebikes Chip - thanks for watching and commenting.

6 месяцев назад
William Johnston +8
William Johnston

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Wow, I was really surprised by the speed test. The Dad's motor and battery are about 50% larger and it was slower. I wonder if that has something to do with the programming and if that can be configured differently. Also could you please do a range test?

7 месяцев назад
C-Q C-Q +1
C-Q C-Q

@Ebike Escape Thank you very much for this excellent review. I am also very interested in range. Might I make a suggestion and take your bikes to a high school quarter mile track, on a 72F, windless day. If necessary equalize rider weight. Set the bikes to PAS#5 and open the throttle(s) fully and measure the distance until the speed drops off 10% and 50%, note the times. I'm thinking the test should take about an hour +/-.

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Hi William, thanks for watching! I will try to do a range test but I've found they are time consuming to film, boring for most folks and there are so many specific factors. Even still I think the Lectric 2.0 might be worthy of one. :)

7 месяцев назад
A H +4
A H

Love the video. I have the 2.0 as well as the 1.0. My 1.0 has 2800 miles with hardly no issues. I've had a bad experience with the 2.0, as far as delivery damage.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thank you! Appreciate you sharing your experience as well.

7 месяцев назад
Lorenzo Almendarez +9
Lorenzo Almendarez

I bought the lectric xp2.0 this summer and I love it. I was not disappointed in its performance.

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Awesome! Always good to hear from other owners. Thanks for watching and commenting!

8 месяцев назад
Tom From North Carolina +2
Tom From North Carolina

I'm actually looking at both these bikes to take along with my RV (class B van style). I like the components and build quality of the RAD bikes but I must admit that the lower weight of the Lectric has me thinking. Thanks for such a detailed review.

29 дней назад
AR1985 +1
AR1985

The minis are so heavy… we actually sold ours and got ride 1 up Lmt’d… we don’t need folding anymore and they’re quite a bit lighter …the rad quality is good but we find the limited more powerful and more fun

24 дня назад
dean draper
dean draper

I just order a lelectric lite. We have a class b and weight and space are precious.

26 дней назад
New Paragraph +3
New Paragraph

I’m firmly stuck between these two, so thanks for the great comparison. Does 500 nominal/800 peak mean that the XP would dig deep to use full power (as much as the 750w Mini could) if needed on a long or steep uphill? I live in a mountainous area. I’m only 7 miles from town. The return trip is a 1000 ft elev gain—although the grade is quite mild and stepped. Does one of these bikes strike you as better suited for that climb? Such a tough choice, and that’s the critical question for me.

7 месяцев назад
Knightclover
Knightclover

They are both great bikes, I bought an lectric but the kick was for me I got it on sale for 995.00.

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Apologies for the delay. I really wish I had both of these bikes handy for a hill comparison. I'm thinking you'll be fine either way as long as your pedaling but 1000 ft is also a huge gain. Might be better off with a mid-drive to take advantage of the gears. The one benefit of the Mini is if you do decide you need more power you can upgrade the controller. From there you could upgrade the motor, but I'm guessing the controller would do the trick.

6 месяцев назад
Ride Share Biz +8
Ride Share Biz

I would pick the Rad Mini 4 just for longer distance with the larger battery capacity. Both bikes are from China. The bike key is easier to use in the Rad. The Lectric XP you need to get on your knees to install the key at the bottom of the bike. Most ebikes are programmed to go no more than 20mph or Class 2 status. The faster you program the bikes the battery will drain more quickly. When buying an ebike, check out the quality of their customer service, warranty, and make sure you know a good bike shop who can repair your ebike.

8 месяцев назад
Lorenzo Almendarez +4
Lorenzo Almendarez

You don't have to get on your knees to insert the key in its slot. I just feel for the slot insert the key and turn the bike on. Simple as that. Come on let's be real here. If this is a deal breaker then there is something really wrong with you.

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

I didn't mention the keys so thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

8 месяцев назад
Masud Syed Rawni +5
Masud Syed Rawni

I have both Lectric XP 2.0 and The Radmini. The Lectric XP 2.0, is lighter, the pedal assist kicks in very early and forcefully, feels a bit quicker but is it really? It's also easier to fold due to the lower weight. However the handlebar feels narrow, handles are hard plastic and the motor kicks in hard even if you lower the strength. The display has a lot of info, you can check time in operation, current, voltage, etc which cannot be found on the Radmini. But I don't know if anyone saw the abysmal engineering oversight when one wants to access the rear brake pad adjuster. I also dislike the fact one has to keep the key inserted at the bottom to keep it active. To sum up, Lectric XP 2.0 is a spritely little bike that's great for it's price but refined it's not. And I think the internet is overladen singing it's praise. I love the Radmini much more, the handlebar is wider with more comfortable grips and the ride is so much more refined. I can control the bike much better when cycling or using the throttle and travel much farther. My one way commute is 7 miles, I can go back and forth with pedal assist 3, 4 trips on the Radmini. The same trip on pedal assist 3 with the Lectric XP 2.0, makes 2 trips before it needs a recharge. The Lectric XP has an almost non-existent return policy, so if one were to purchase it and did not like it, you would be stuck with it. I like the Rad's return policy but I kept it since I liked it so much.

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hey Ronan - this is super helpful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

5 месяцев назад
Imagine then Make +2
Imagine then Make

Thanks for the excellent video! I have been considering an e-bike to commute to work on. One of the things that I have not heard much about is pedaling the different model bikes with the pedal assist OFF. I have ridden a few different mountain bikes (with no pedal assist) and have noticed a huge difference in the gearing. So my question is; How difficult is it to pedal up hills without any pedal assist (in case the battery goes dead while riding)?

4 месяца назад
SunriseLAW +1
SunriseLAW

These ebikes weigh 80 pounds. You are not going to pedal them up a hill. Lectric has a 'walk mode' and sells a spare battery for $299 which is probably the route I will take. Then I have 19.2 ah.

Месяц назад
Imagine then Make
Imagine then Make

@Ebike Escape Once again, thanks for your reply. I'm kind of stuck on this gearing issue. My old pedal bike uses 3 sprockets at the cranks and a 6 sprocket cluster in the rear. The range of gear ratios is huge. My only complaint is that the largest gear in the rear needs to be even bigger to make climbing hills less daunting. When I first starting looking into e-bikes as a possible way to commute to work (rather than driving a car) I assumed an e-bike would be like my old pedal bike with an electric motor added but that does not seem to be the case; the manual gearing on a new e-bike does not seem to be the same as my old pedal bike. I have also learned that new mountain bikes (no pedal assist) now have only 1 sprocket at the cranks with a large cluster at the rear wheel. The gear ratios in this arrangement makes climbing hills on the trail much easier. If a motor was added to this bike, I can see how ghost pedaling might be a real problem. Right or wrong, that's why I'm thinking that what I really want is my old bike (with a huge selection of gear ratios although I'd still like a larger sprocket in the rear cluster) with an electric motor added to increase average travel speed and reasonable range (to get back and forth to work without turning into a sweaty mess). Maybe I should change out the front wheel for a new one with a hub motor (500 watt?)?

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

@Imagine then Make There are some companies that go all the way to 34T in the rear but really what you want is more gearing on the high end so you don't have ghost pedaling. Building a DIY ebike doesn't necessarily mean you avoid these issues. If you want to be able to pedal the ebike without the battery look for some of the lighter ebikes with smaller batteries. The Aventon Soltera comes to mind.

4 месяца назад
Imagine then Make
Imagine then Make

@Ebike Escape Thanks for your reply. You confirmed my suspicions. I don't really understand why ebike gearing is designed this way which is why I am now looking at diy ebikes (adding a motor & battery to a properly geared bike). Any thoughts?

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +3
Ebike Escape

I would say flat ground it's pretty easy to stay in the 8-11 mph range but hills really are a challenge on heavy ebikes. You might be able to do it but it's going to be a slow slog up a hill. At that point you might as well call a friend or an uber and fold up the ebike in the trunk :)

4 месяца назад
dtape +10
dtape

Love the drag race. I'm surprised this is the first ebike review video I've seen showing a head-to-head drag race. I'd love to see more of these.

8 месяцев назад
TM +2
TM

@dtape ....and do it on the first Saturday in May and have Mint Julips! :-) (Just kidding.)

8 месяцев назад
dtape +1
dtape

@Ebike Escape Cool! You could make it more scientific if you want, measure the weight of each rider and add ballast onto the rack of the bike of the lighter rider.

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Good to know! I'm open to doing something like that.

8 месяцев назад
Rene Williams +3
Rene Williams

Just got 2 Lectric’s, love them. Shocks not so helpful. Folds up easy. Fold up comparison would be interesting. I fit both in the rear seat area of tundra smaller extend cab,with no problem.

6 месяцев назад
C-Q C-Q
C-Q C-Q

@Liora Jacob ... Dimensionally as well. The Lectric XP says it will fold to 37 X 18 X 28 in and the height under my pickup bedcover is 18.5" and MAYBE would just fit... but one its side or upright?

5 месяцев назад
Liora Jacob +1
Liora Jacob

As per their specs the Lectric 2.0 folds up slightly smaller by a couple of inches in each dimension than the Rad mini. Be interesting to hear which is easier to carry and lift into a trunk for transport.

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad you like them Rene. Yes, I should have folded both of them.

6 месяцев назад
Freeman Vashier +2
Freeman Vashier

I just got a Lectric xp2.0 and couldn't be happier. In 3 mode I can get to 28 on P5 on a flat road (60 y/o). It handles great on all terrain

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Awesome! Glad you like it - thanks for watching and commenting.

5 месяцев назад
Fournier Luc +1
Fournier Luc

Thank you for the interesting review. You did not mention the height limitations for riders. We read the sizing manual and I had chats with the RAD rep and she said that my wife and I are too tall for the RAD Mini, she's 5'5" and I'm 5'10in. I tried the mini and the Lectric and while they were not dialed-in for me, I would expect that they would be suitable for me.

5 месяцев назад
Guillaume Métayer +1
Guillaume Métayer

5'5" too tall for the RadMini? There must have been some miscommunication there because that ain't true.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

I'm 6' tall and feel comfortable on both. It's a bit more of a different ride feel but I don't mind riding either of these. Hope that helps - check out the riding footage on the respective videos to get an idea of how I fit!

5 месяцев назад
Dabber65 +3
Dabber65

Just got the Lectric 2.0 . So much fun. I bought this over the Rad cause of the weight limit. I weigh 265-270. That is approaching The the max of the rad. I'm sure it would have been fine. Like your channel!

7 месяцев назад
Arthur K
Arthur K

@Dabber65 thanks

3 месяца назад
Dabber65 +1
Dabber65

@Arthur K We have done about 14 miles one time mixed pedalling and throttle with elevation changes. Still had 1 bar of juice on the indicator.

3 месяца назад
Arthur K +2
Arthur K

How many miles its last on 1 charge? Im the same weight and don’t want to pedal a lot:)

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words and glad you are enjoying your Lectric 2.0

7 месяцев назад
Deb M +2
Deb M

Thanks for all the info. I’m a newbie to ebike and watching your video has helped me. Also reading the comments h ave helped. I’m 60 yo but in great shape I think the lectric would be a good starter bike for me. I thought the rad would win.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for watching!

2 месяца назад
Jeffery Hall +3
Jeffery Hall

I would choose the Lectric based on specs alone and once you include price it is a NO BRAINER for the LECTRIC. You can buy the LECTRIC bike AND AN EXTRA battery (19.2 AH total) for the same price as RadMini.

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Jeffrey!

4 месяца назад
Wayne Lee +2
Wayne Lee

I wonder if you could comment on seat height and leg extension. I test rode the rad mini step thru and to be almost comfortable on leg extension I had to max out the seat height. I think I might also have liked the seat further back relative to the pedals. Is there greater flexibility on the seat height and/or positioning on the lectric?

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Hi Wayne, I should have talked more about this - remember you can always buy a longer seatpost to help with that pesky min adjustment mark. But I will say I am 6 ft tall and have a 32 in inseam and I can comfortably ride on both bikes. Unfortunately I don't have the bikes side by side any longer to delver into the max seat height.

7 месяцев назад
Phil Drader
Phil Drader

A couple of questions. The Lectric is IP-65 rated for water resistance. What is the rating of the RadMini? Also, how do the interior run cables fair when the RadMini is unfolded? I have seen other e-bikes (Greenway) where the cables are easily pinched because of the design. The Lectric has a solid battery connection at the fold instead of cables running through it.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Hi Phil, I don't believe the RadMini is IP-65 rated though I've heard rumblings the new RadRover 6+ might be but they don't advertise it. I have ridden our Rad in rain with no issues though. Sorry I didn't show a close up of them folded. I don't have the Mini handy so I can't check on this for you. If you go to the forum I'm sure someone would be happy to answer: radowners.com

7 месяцев назад
1PotatoeMasher1 +1
1PotatoeMasher1

I’d love to see these in an endurance race at a go kart track, maybe 20min on a hot day to see if one over heats the motor or brakes or slows down significantly more.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

I can't speak to the Lectric XP motor but I know someone on the Rad Owners Forum who tried to break a RadMini motor (with a different controller pushing more power) and it still is kicking. It's nice to know it can handle the abuse and with the stock controller it's only getting 750 watts. But I agree - it still would be a good test to see if anything else happened.

3 месяца назад
Dan Myers +1
Dan Myers

You and your wife did an excellent job putting the video together, I own the electric XP 2.0 and also with my wife would step through 2.0

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks Dan! Appreciate the kind words.

2 месяца назад
TM +2
TM

Actually, most water bottles won't fit that spot behind the seat on the Lectric. That spot was designed more for the bike lock that they offer.....but the Lectric is a super nice bike!

8 месяцев назад
TM
TM

​@Ebike Escape I was hoping to use that space for a water bottle even though I'd see that it was designed for a Lectric folding lock mount, but the space is a bit too narrow for a standard water bottle. Thanks for all your videos. They're always very interesting.

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thanks Tom, that makes sense. I'll be sure to call this out in my full review. Appreciate you pointing this out.

8 месяцев назад
Master Photog +1
Master Photog

Great detailed video, keep up the good work!

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thank you!

6 месяцев назад
Donna Kirby +1
Donna Kirby

Enjoyed the video - my husband and I are retired and plan on using the bikes at campgrounds and National parks since we have a motorhome. Any suggestions on which bike would be a better fit for older adults who are e-bike newbies

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hi Donna, I think either of these would work. In my opinion the RadMini might be a tad bit more approachable due to giving you a bit of a slower start. But of course that's going to also depend on how comfortable you both are riding bikes. Best bet is to try one before you buy.

6 месяцев назад
Dan Downing +3
Dan Downing

I bought a Lectric XP, have had it a week and have 70 miles on it. I kinda wish I went with the RadMini because the range on the Lectric is not great. In my area using pedal assist 3 I cant get 20 miles, keeps cutting out around 18 miles. And the 28 mph on the Lectric is NOT something I care about anymore, you have to pedal REALLY hard and fast to get that. I did get it up to 32 mph on a downhill.

8 месяцев назад
Dan Downing +1
Dan Downing

@Ebike Escape No, just a good amount of hills in my area. I'm 165lbs for reference. I think I might be able to get 30 miles on the flat path I was on the other day with pedal assist 2. But if I'm just putzing along in pedal assist 2 I may as well sell the Lectric and just use my normal hybrid or mountain bike since I can pedal at around 10mph for miles. But realistically it's a 9.6 AH battery, it is what it is. But pedal assist 4 and this thing MOVES!!!

8 месяцев назад
woodie
woodie

Even though I almost never do it but it’s not hard at all to go let’s say 25-28 mph with the xp.With the xp all you have to do is have it in pas 5 and ghost pedal it. As long as the cranks are rotating it will get to the claimed 28 mph. You don’t need to pedal as hard as you can.At times if in a hurry to get somewhere and not worried about battery range I will put it in pas 5 and ghost pedal up to 25 mph and set the cruise control. Works great.

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Hi Dan, thanks for sharing your experience. I agree, 28 MPH is not feasible, even at 25 you have to pedal very hard and your legs are really spinning. It seems odd that it is cutting out at 18 miles. Do you think something is wrong with your bike?

8 месяцев назад
woodie
woodie

@Dan Downing I need to do a pedal assist 3 only test one day to see what it can do.

8 месяцев назад
Dan Downing
Dan Downing

@woodie Rode twice this week on hard gravel, no hills, pedal assist 2-3. One ride I got 27 miles, the 2nd ride about the same. I simply don't believe it when I hear 40+ miles unless you're not going past pedal assist 2.

8 месяцев назад
Steven T. +1
Steven T.

What's the distance it can travel with motor power only? For many people, that will be the deciding factor to purchase.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

The RadMini is going to have more range due to the larger battery. Should go 20 miles without too much trouble, maybe more.

6 месяцев назад
Brian Sack
Brian Sack

Nice job comparing -- very helpful in making a decision.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks Brian - glad I could help!

2 месяца назад
Lynne FTW
Lynne FTW

The rad looks more robust, so it surprised me to hear that the rider weight max was lower than the Lectric.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

I'd be curious how much really goes into the weight spec on ebikes. Perhaps some companies are more conservative than others when it comes to giving a definitive weight limit.

3 месяца назад
Billy Teeter +3
Billy Teeter

We decided to purchase his and hers Lectric 2.0. Ordered both today. Thanks for your great reviews!!

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Awesome Billy! Enjoy and thanks for watching!

6 месяцев назад
Jessica Harris
Jessica Harris

Would love to see how they fold up. And how do they both fold with a basket on the back. I want to out a child seat on the back but concerned how it would fold. The seat is a pain to take on and off.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Check out my full review on how the Lectric XP folds. I'll be getting the accessories so keep an eye out for how it folds or doesn't with those installed.

7 месяцев назад
David Pryor +1
David Pryor

This was a good movie about the two bikes.I,m in my mid 60s and thinking about buying the 2.0 Lectric and it was nice to the two bikes.Thanks Dave

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad I could help Dave - thanks for commenting!

5 месяцев назад
Aaron Repper +5
Aaron Repper

Good reviews I just ordered a lectric XP and a ST last Monday can't wait for them to come in.sould be a good upgrade from my Jetson bolt pro!

8 месяцев назад
Knightclover
Knightclover

I just ordered a lectric 2.0 myself, my only issue is with this as it says on the website that they are in stock but it take 1 to 2 weeks to ship. Only downside so far.

4 месяца назад
Donny B. Wise
Donny B. Wise

Aaron Repper... I started with a Jetson Bolt Pro (Costco $330.00/inc tax) and realized two things. 1) For $300 that Jetson Bolt Pro is an amazing starter ebike and I know of nothing that comes close to that slim price... And it's a durable little bike with surprising giddy up. 2) I immediately learned I was hooked on the electric bike thing but needed to definitely kick it up a level and go to something more substantial... I figured at that stage I didn't want to go over $1500. I almost went for the Aventon Sinch ( test road one for 5 minutes and I loved it) the max speed (being 20 miles per hour) derailed that for me and I went with the Lectric XP 1.0 (28 miles per hour)... and it was five or six hundred dollars cheaper. I think the Sinch is a great bike and definitely a little better than Lectric XP 1.0 ( little better components and design) But for $1,000? at least with the first gen Lectric XP....? Hands down excellent choice for me and I'm really glad I made that decision. How long till I need to upgrade to more powerful motor and bigger battery and so much more expensive ebike? Not sure but I'm happy with this one now.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Awesome enjoy! The Jetson is on my list to review but I do think it will be a good upgrade for you.

8 месяцев назад
George Harvey +2
George Harvey

I just bought the Lectric XP 2.0 for my wife for Mother’s Day. She loves it. I drive it to the grocery store, bank and Post Office up a large hill. I’m 6’3 and weigh 220 lbs. The bike has more than enough power to go up the hills although I need to give it a little peddle assist. Nothing that tires me out though. The bike is well made. I’m thinking about getting one for myself as well.

29 дней назад
George Harvey +1
George Harvey

@James Conner it depends on what level you put it in. It has 5 levels ranging from 7mph, 10pm h, 14mph, 18mph and 20mph. You can also override it to make is a class 3 bike and go about 25-28mph. It’s not like a motorcycle where the more throttle you give it the faster it goes. You set the range level and then it just goes that fast in level ground of course. If you go up a hill it will start to slow down and then you can pedal to help it along. I have noticed that even if you have the bike gears in 7th speed you cannot pedal fast enough to keep up with the motor at 20 mph. They call that ghost peddling.

28 дней назад
James Conner
James Conner

Does the XP 2.0 have single speed only or variable speed when using just the throttle, no pedaling.

28 дней назад
Knightclover +3
Knightclover

Love this I am glad I bought an lectric. It seems like a great bike. So its the Rad. I was stuck between the two and bought the lectric because of price getting it on sale for 995.00.

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Enjoy your new ebike!

4 месяца назад
Ray J +2
Ray J

Great review thanks, what Rad model is the most stable for an elderly rider. I'm looking for a stable easy to ride step through for my wife. Do larger wheels factor into this? thanks.

8 месяцев назад
Ray J
Ray J

@Ebike Escape Thanks!!

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +3
Ebike Escape

I typically recommend the RadMini for those looking for the most accessible bike but I'd also consider the RadCity if you're looking for full sized wheels. The RadMini is a bit of a different feel with the smaller wheels and longer stem/handlebars. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!

8 месяцев назад
woodie +2
woodie

Nice review and comparison of the two.Both are great.

8 месяцев назад
Capt America
Capt America

umm not really the mini is way better, I have both and the XP had issues with the electronics and batteries

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for watching! I agree!

8 месяцев назад
Imagine then Make
Imagine then Make

And I have couple more basic questions. I think I would prefer to use my smartphone for maps, distance traveled, time spent, etc. Do any of the e-bike makers have a very basic controller/display with room left on the handlebars to mount a smartphone? Also, with so many choices for rechargeable bike lights at really low prices, do any of the e-bike makers have the headlight/taillight as an option? Thanks.

4 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

There are plenty of companies that use smaller displays. Even the larger screens center-mounted allow for room on the handlebars. Check out Ride1Up for some smaller displays. Lots of ebike companies have integrated rear lights though they leave a bit to be desired. Always best to use external lights for ultimate visibility. Thanks for watching and your comment.

4 месяца назад
Imagine then Make
Imagine then Make

@King Raymond III Thanks.

4 месяца назад
King Raymond III
King Raymond III

The Lectric has a phone mount on the left handlebar near the control buttons.

4 месяца назад
Rokabur +1
Rokabur

Definitely leaning towards the Lectric XP 2.0.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Good deal. Enjoy and I appreciate if you use my link in the description.

3 месяца назад
jim nash
jim nash

Would have been nice if you did a demo of folding each bike !

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Yes, sorry about that - I forgot :(

6 месяцев назад
M. Campbell
M. Campbell

Thank you. Weight is a strong consideration for me. If the battery is removed what is the weight of the RadMini?

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

The battery weighs about 7.7 lbs so you're looking at about 61 lbs. Thanks for watching!

6 месяцев назад
Patent Experts +3
Patent Experts

I purchased an original Lectric (1.0) and have over 1,000 miles on it - no problems yet. I purchased a Lectric 2.0 Step Through for my wife to test and she says it really runs well and she really likes the front suspension vs no suspension on the 1.0. I just pre-ordered a Lectric XP Premium Model and I'm looking forward to it - I will probably sell the 1.0 after the Lectric XP Premium arrives. For the price and features I recommend the Lectric and it is always good to be able to call and email the company directly .

28 дней назад
j E +2
j E

I know the lectric XP comes with a Samsung battery what type of battery does the rad mini come with? Also the electric has a one year warranty what is the rad minis warranty? It's hard to find reviews of the rad Mini that are unbiased but you do a very good job so thank you for doing this

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

The RadMini comes with Samsung 35E cells. Rad also has a 1 year warranty. Thanks for the kind words and checking out the video!

7 месяцев назад
Kwantae Jeong
Kwantae Jeong

Thanks for your vedeo I’m going to decide between Rod mini step thru and Lectric 2’0 XP what I was hesitate buying exactly last week l think Rod mini looks more pretty and reputation and goog battery which makes best SAMSUNG brand - from California

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Enjoy whatever bike you decide on!

7 месяцев назад
The Movie Dealers +1
The Movie Dealers

I got the Lectric with their Black Friday deal. Only $949 and they threw in the $200 comfort package upgrade for free. No brainer deal.

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

I agree, it's an awesome deal!

6 месяцев назад
John Scannell
John Scannell

Nice video. I have been thinking a lot about the Lectric bike. I don't seem to have an electric bike shop near me so wondering about servicing and buying new tires when needed. Do regular bike shops service ebikes? Thanks.

2 месяца назад
John Scannell
John Scannell

@Ebike Escape Thank you.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hi John, it's going to depend on the bike shop. We have one locally that is happy to work on them and even contact the company if needed. Most often they will do adjustments and flat tire replacements but will not touch the electronics. You should call around and ask in your area.

2 месяца назад
Gail JOHNSON +2
Gail JOHNSON

New subscriber. Thank you for the excellent honest review. Congratulations on future baby. Thank you for the video.Blessings to both.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +2
Ebike Escape

Thank you! We are very excited about our growing family.

6 месяцев назад
cash storeone
cash storeone

The seat looks more comfortable on the Rad, but not a deal breaker. I would like to see how well they do on dirt.

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Comparing the stock seats I actually find the Lectric is more comfortable.

2 месяца назад
Asoka Mano
Asoka Mano

I would like to see which bike really is faster if you take the basket off the RadMini. The less weight on an ebike the faster it goes, so this comparison as far as power and speed goes is useless .

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

There are so many factors. My main point to show was that these bikes are pretty similar.

6 месяцев назад
Adventures with Bill & Livvi +2
Adventures with Bill & Livvi

I'd get the Lectric just for one reason, customer service. We had a Rad and it took 5 months to get a working bike. They did take it back but it was a part time job.

7 месяцев назад
Adventures with Bill & Livvi +3
Adventures with Bill & Livvi

@Ebike Escape it was damaged in transit and waiting a week between emails or 3-4 hours on hold is not customer service. The motor was dead in the box. The other damaged parts took months to get fixed.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hi Bill, sorry you had a negative experience. It definitely shouldn't take 5 months. What was wrong with your Rad in the end?

7 месяцев назад
Andrew Cool +1
Andrew Cool

best video on both bikes i’ve seen. very informative!

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad you liked it!

3 месяца назад
Joseph Martin +2
Joseph Martin

My experience w lectric xp 2.0 I bought a bike it had a bad motor and battery I took a day of work with customer service to diagnose it and realized they get cheap Chinese batteries and it's a kinda common problem the bike at first didn't even close and they recommend bending the progs w pliers when I sent the bike back cuz I couldn't miss another day of work they charged me a few hundred dollars to ship it back and restock it but it wasn't my fault they didn't send what was advertised and I missed a whole day of work trying to get approval to deal w a bike tech

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

3 месяца назад
Sandy Graham +1
Sandy Graham

very informative; we bought two Lectric from manufacturer in Phoenix; in our 70s. Will let you know how it goes thanks again and happy new baby!!

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Awesome Sandy! I hope you enjoy and thanks for the kind words - we are excited!

6 месяцев назад
Patrick McHargue
Patrick McHargue

How well do these ebikes fold when you have the various racks installed?

5 месяцев назад
Patrick McHargue
Patrick McHargue

@Ebike Escape Thank you.

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Check out this video for the Lectric with the racks/baskets installed: https://youtu.be/7B6NzglrsH8

5 месяцев назад
Trisha Clymore +1
Trisha Clymore

Great review and very helpful.

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad to hear it! Thanks for your comment.

6 месяцев назад
Chapter 4 Travels
Chapter 4 Travels

Folded length is 42" vs 37" (Rad - Lectric) Which was the decision-maker for me.

2 месяца назад
Chapter 4 Travels
Chapter 4 Travels

@Ebike Escape Right, that's why I brought it up.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for sharing! I did not talk about folded size.

2 месяца назад
thomas dipaolo +1
thomas dipaolo

Thought the xp would win. Nice video. Thanks

7 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for watching Thomas!

6 месяцев назад
Mona V
Mona V

If I were to get the electric XP 2.0 and wanted to put mirrors and the phone holder, will the bike still fold nicely? I'm hoping to purchase one today if anyone can answer that question honestly.

8 месяцев назад
Clothed and Competent
Clothed and Competent

There are some good vids out there discussing and showing this. The only thing I've seen become an isdue with folding is the rear cargo rack. The front rack fits nicely over the rear one, but cargo on front and back prevent it from fully folding. I'm going to try a rear pannier over the rack and front cargo rack in a week or so when my pannier arrives. Personally, I only fold it for transport when traveling far from home and the rear cargo, if needed, comes on an off in under 2 mins, so not much of an issue.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape +1
Ebike Escape

Hi Mona, I don't have a good answer for you yet but once our full review is out we will start putting accessories on the Lectric XP 2.0. I am still waiting for the cargo pack, hopefully coming in October.

8 месяцев назад
David Wilson
David Wilson

Lectric xp can unlock speed to 28 mph. I think the Rad can be unlocked too, but the top speed is 25 mph.

8 месяцев назад
Mark C
Mark C

@Ebike Escape I have a radmini 4 and a radmini st and they both will easily do 25mph, GPS confirmed.

Месяц назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

I did a separate video and the top speed I could get on the Lectric on flat ground with it unlocked. I hit 25 mph while ferociously pedaling which isn't too far off from an unlocked RadMini.

8 месяцев назад
Don Daue
Don Daue

When testing speed you forgot about mentioning the upgrade on the xp2.0 taking top speed to 28mph meaning its not a draw .I always put my pedal assist to 5 and on average I get 26mph without putting tension on chain when pedaling I call it fake pedaling because its freewheeling !

3 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Good point Don!

3 месяца назад
lori brammer
lori brammer

Thanks for this video! How tall are you? Liking the Rad mini. I am 5’2” and my husband is 6’1”. We like that it folds and is a step through. Not sure if this would be too small for hubby.

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

I'm 6' tall with a 32" inseam. It will be close but I'm guessing he could make it work.

2 месяца назад
Andrew Busenbark +1
Andrew Busenbark

Just bought 3 lectric bikes. Love them!

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Awesome! Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching and commenting!

6 месяцев назад
Harold Mann
Harold Mann

Folding ability and folded Dementions? Great video comparison though, also manufacturer battery recharging multipler (800) and time to fully charge?

5 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Sorry, did not fold these next to each other. I think both of these specs are listed on the website. 2 amp chargers so around 5 hours for the Lectric and 7 for the Rad.

5 месяцев назад
Sam Ziedman
Sam Ziedman

I am looking to get the XP since it is on sale right now. It is for my fiancé who is 5' - 1" and 120 lbs. It now comes with a free package of accessories worth $200. I have a Ride1up Ltd.

6 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Sounds like a good option! Just keep in mind it is heavy. Appreciate it if you use my link before you buy to help the channel. Thanks for watching!

6 месяцев назад
Binh N Nguyen
Binh N Nguyen

Great reviews. I like it!

8 месяцев назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!

8 месяцев назад
James Conner +1
James Conner

I'm not sure I understand if the XP battery is removable for safekeeping, and allow the frame to stay outside locked up or in a garage. Second, for really short people like myself and my wife, even tho it doesn't look like it in this video, the RAD reach from seat to handlebars is supposedly 6 inches closer. That is a lot. Third, what is the minimum seat height and minimum handlebar height. I don't want to look like I'm riding a 70s chopper.

25 дней назад
George Kahn
George Kahn

Very well done video. Comprehensive. Thanks

2 месяца назад
Ebike Escape
Ebike Escape

Thanks for watching and commenting!

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