Unsafe Phone Chargers

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@PirateSoftware +11619
@PirateSoftware

Many people in the comments are stating this information is irrelevant due to the existence of Power-Only cables and Data Blockers. Not everyone uses these and not everyone knows why they are important. Understand that security measures are generally only taken by those that know they exist. They only learn about them by spreading information like this. Share knowledge, help people keep safe, don't use public charging stations.

2 месяца назад
@CinnamonGoblin +201
@CinnamonGoblin

Would charging a battery then using that work?

2 месяца назад
@PirateSoftware +763
@PirateSoftware

@@CinnamonGoblin Of course! Just don't use devices/cables that aren't yours. Simple stuff!

2 месяца назад
@BongWatah +24
@BongWatah

I never knew about that until now

2 месяца назад
@Mileal76 +47
@Mileal76

Also a lot of newer phones like MOTO have a setting that doesn't allow you to transfer data until you allow it.

2 месяца назад
@3xceIIent +72
@3xceIIent

@@Mileal76 It's been a thing on samsung phones for like a decade. I thought it was standard.

2 месяца назад
@CaseyWilkesmusic +17656
@CaseyWilkesmusic

USB condom is something I’ve not heard until today

2 месяца назад
@emery8731 +8
@emery8731

Is it ribbed for my pleasure tho

2 месяца назад
@haskinsian +1061
@haskinsian

It's half the reason I use a cheap "magnetic charging cable". 2 contacts, no data, no need to explain a usb condom to a Luddite.

2 месяца назад
@davidruban +276
@davidruban

They make magnetic charging adapters with data as well, so best be careful when choosing your hardware.

2 месяца назад
@Gauzed_Gazed__ +115
@Gauzed_Gazed__

i just woke up, washed my face take a sip of coffee, open YT saw this vid and saw this comment, its early in the morning lmao

2 месяца назад
@Goodmanperson55 +62
@Goodmanperson55

I would just use a powerbank as an intermediate.

2 месяца назад
@Raikos100 +1009
@Raikos100

That's why you gotta bring a small powerbank. If the Powerbank runs dry, you charge on the suspicious port that it won't matter anyways.

2 месяца назад
@BryanMartinez_ +84
@BryanMartinez_

No just bring you own brick, data can't be transferred if you charge your phone with your own power brick directly in the the wall socket

Месяц назад
@kernan3348
@kernan3348

powerbank = brick. He said exactly what you tried correcting lmao. Just one step further and said to only charge the brick and not the phone @@BryanMartinez_

Месяц назад
@JohannesWOW +21
@JohannesWOW

what if i sold you a powerbank with a mini pc in it? a rasberry pi but smaller.

Месяц назад
@jionscott2836 +3
@jionscott2836

​@@JohannesWOW buy a transparent one

Месяц назад
@lua-nya +9
@lua-nya

​@@JohannesWOW You know, an esp32-s3 can be a host or a device on the same port much like a phone's processor can. You are tempting me.

Месяц назад
@Sylviusky +140
@Sylviusky

That's why when I'm in a public space and need to charge my phone I only use wall plugs, like, not USB ports but whole plugs on the wall, to avoid things like this

Месяц назад
@cam5816
@cam5816

That’s exactly what I wanted you to do 😈

Месяц назад
@shazarakk +1
@shazarakk

Gimme that 230V 13A AC goodness and nothing else.

15 часов назад
@real_ouss +7218
@real_ouss

Please don't put a small computer inside the box, ty :)

2 месяца назад
@lukasperuzovic1429 +115
@lukasperuzovic1429

Too late, I already did it

2 месяца назад
@lekiflomaster5013
@lekiflomaster5013

im inside your walls already@@lukasperuzovic1429

2 месяца назад
@loganmiller3710 +46
@loganmiller3710

With the O.MG cable you don't even need a brick, it just puts the computer in the cable.

2 месяца назад
@TheWolf-ov8rt +27
@TheWolf-ov8rt

​@@loganmiller3710it doesn't put the computer but it opens a wireless access point which you can connect your computer to from a distance and control it. Basically think of it as an antenna to your computer

2 месяца назад
@vafixer8885 +25
@vafixer8885

Well he said so politely...so, I'll just steal nudes and not your money.

2 месяца назад
@nestcamo1181 +45
@nestcamo1181

Androids have a setting called "usb configuration" inside ur dev menu that lets you set the phone to "charging phone only". Its preset to data transfer, so just change the settings! Hope this helps

2 месяца назад
@brianmclaren361 +7
@brianmclaren361

That's bypassed pretty easily apparently.

4 дня назад
@sph4551 +3
@sph4551

Yeah that's software and easily bypassed. A better way is to make your port power only by shorting/removing the data contacts.

День назад
@michaelrobertson4298 +112
@michaelrobertson4298

I remember reading that this was theoretically possible but has never been documented in the wild. Still just be safe, dont charge from anything that you don’t own.

2 месяца назад
@siskanotanexibisionist562
@siskanotanexibisionist562

In my country airport they just straight using the charger head not usb.

2 месяца назад
@user-golos +28
@user-golos

Yeah, it’s pretty much the equivalent of “drugs in Halloween candy” myth

2 месяца назад
@GoodMortySmith +3
@GoodMortySmith

O.MG cables and others. Not a myth, we can access and send commands by logging into your phone over the web if you just plug the cable in. That's it.

2 месяца назад
@jungianorigami9975 +5
@jungianorigami9975

Difference is if you kid gets drugs in Halloween candy you’ll know. If I put a key logger on your phone, you won’t.

Месяц назад
@msjkramey +1
@msjkramey

​@jungianorigami9975 if you don't do anything that I'd notice with my data, then why should I care? Lol. I only care if you're messing with my money or sharing my private life

Месяц назад
@psychoinferno4480 +6830
@psychoinferno4480

2 options from here then: Data blocker aka a USB condom Power bank

2 месяца назад
@TheWarwar123123 +128
@TheWarwar123123

Or just turn your phone off and charge it

2 месяца назад
@MrElectorium +168
@MrElectorium

Or just enable charging only on your phone

2 месяца назад
@sloppybunny +119
@sloppybunny

Usb condom is my new favorite term 😂😂

2 месяца назад
@hobbinsjogsohn9996 +42
@hobbinsjogsohn9996

I always keep a power bank on-hand. Too many times I or someone else needed to charge something and just didn't have a way to do so.

2 месяца назад
@nefrace +62
@nefrace

​@@TheWarwar123123 some modern phones are too "smart" to turn on when they see incoming power.

2 месяца назад
@ZhortGuyz +88
@ZhortGuyz

Modern Phones just charge except when you press on "Trust this Computer"

Месяц назад
@jama211 +15
@jama211

Yeup. He's over-reaching here.

Месяц назад
@TheByQQ +41
@TheByQQ

@@jama211 This assumes there's no vulnerability that can bypass this check. Who knows, maybe if you connect and disconnect the phone 120 times a second for 3 seconds the system spazzes out, or maybe there's a backdoor included for the glowing ones, or whatever

Месяц назад
@jungianorigami9975 +15
@jungianorigami9975

No he isn’t. There are vulnerabilities you don’t know about, better safe than sorry

Месяц назад
@crows8107 +9
@crows8107

Assuming anyone who's smart enough to create a device that's capable of pulling off what he's talking about isn't smart enough to code the software to just make that input to trust the computer, or hide that it's a computer at all lmao

Месяц назад
@DoctorTemblor
@DoctorTemblor

@@crows8107 There's no system without its vulnerabilites. Physical protection like cutting the data cables is more reliable than any software protection

Месяц назад
@ArnoldsKtm +108
@ArnoldsKtm

Not all USB-c cables are data cables. Some are only power transfer. But yeah, the ones that come with the phone are the prior.

2 месяца назад
@KewalTailor
@KewalTailor

All are

2 месяца назад
@Karniak91 +11
@Karniak91

​@@KewalTailor you wrong they exist they just kinda rare to find randomly might not support fast charge there are pin's for data and pin's for charging and some for connection configuration

2 месяца назад
@JohannesWOW
@JohannesWOW

and you know this how? did you make the cable yourself, of did I just sell you a data cable, labeled as power transfer only? cause, lord knows.... we dont already do it with your food.

Месяц назад
@Karniak91
@Karniak91

@@JohannesWOW you can see pin's in connectors smart ass or to be more clear lack of pin's in it leaving only ones used to charge there are also adapters to normal cables. Do some research before you embarrass yourself again.

Месяц назад
@timbelcijan9858 +16
@timbelcijan9858

@@JohannesWOW bro just because you can't read labels doesn't mean food companies are 'tricking' you

Месяц назад
@sethost2548 +3615
@sethost2548

*plugs phone into terminal* phone: trust this computer?

2 месяца назад
@Catboy_Riku
@Catboy_Riku

lmao thats what im saying, this guys is kinda stupid, phones dont just give access by plugging in unless you tell them to xD

2 месяца назад
@laloreta798 +191
@laloreta798

Cable: presses yea

2 месяца назад
@jordan3400 +40
@jordan3400

@@laloreta798cable can’t do that😂

2 месяца назад
@laloreta798 +95
@laloreta798

@@jordan3400 they can lol they can emulate a keyboard.

2 месяца назад
@americanloner +30
@americanloner

@@jordan3400computer using a virtual keyboard that’s on the other end of the cable can 😂

2 месяца назад
@christopherg2347 +25
@christopherg2347

Juice Jacking was only ever a theoretical problem. It was fixed on the OS design level. Once they were reminded "hey, trust the USB cable as much as any network cable" even the potential for issues was gone.

2 месяца назад
@xhivo97
@xhivo97

What about HID stuff or potentially USB network thingy (but that's be as insecure as using any public network ig)

12 дней назад
@christopherg2347 +3
@christopherg2347

@@xhivo97 That would be _how_ juice jacking would do work. But as long as you block any work - until the user allows it - juice jacking is not an issue.

12 дней назад
@Yoh120 +472
@Yoh120

Every phone in the last decade asks if it should transfer data or not when you plug it in.

2 месяца назад
@abcdef-vk7si +97
@abcdef-vk7si

yeah, unless it's some script that will leverage phone's unpatched vulnerabilities, if they even exist. otherwise idk how would you install something. but still I would avoid unsafe chargers

2 месяца назад
@SphynxsShadow +106
@SphynxsShadow

Yeah as a phone unlocker, I can say that people are not stealing your data from you just plugging it in, and not all power cables are data cables. He might have worked for Blizz but clearly never worked on phones. It's harder to steal data on a phone than he thinks. Sounds easy, not in reality. And not worthwhile to bother with the risk on the average users phone. ADB also cannot run properly without a user unlocking the device beforehand and enabling the data connection. But that's not to speak of iPhones because Apple technology is shit and I tell everyone not to waste my time with them. I refuse to bother with Icloud unlocking anymore because it's just a hassle and tbf if you got an apple you deserve it to not work.

2 месяца назад
@XecularOfficial
@XecularOfficial

@@abcdef-vk7si Even if someone found a zero-day that let you bypass a smartphone's data transfer permissions, there's no way they would use something that valuable on random people when they can target companies instead

2 месяца назад
@pi286 +6
@pi286

When the Samsung galaxy s7 came out almost 8 years ago, it came with a vulnerability and you could hack anyones mobile phone with just their number and your own server.

2 месяца назад
@SphynxsShadow +7
@SphynxsShadow

@@pi286 lol maybe for the ones released to your nation. You could never do that here. The most you could do was force a link to appear on the screen of the number you chose. They still had to tap it. American/Indian S7 were easier to unlock than an NZ one. Firmware is slightly different between nations

2 месяца назад
@reachthroughreality +937
@reachthroughreality

life lesson applicable in many fields: don't stick things in random holes you don't trust.

2 месяца назад
@Nightmark2 +28
@Nightmark2

You mean "you don't thrust" ?

2 месяца назад
@NearlyInfinity +3
@NearlyInfinity

@@Nightmark2 hah, nice

2 месяца назад
@christopherwilkins8954
@christopherwilkins8954

Damn I keep getting this one wrong. I can never remember if it's do or don't, so I just listen to my gut... I mean penis.

2 месяца назад
@unhabilitated9104 +65
@unhabilitated9104

And that is why phones ask you for permission to give data access.

2 месяца назад
@user-ou8ki4rj4l +3
@user-ou8ki4rj4l

People who know what they are doing don't need you to approve the datatransfer they can just flash your bios and get in using your phones bios boot mode 😅

2 месяца назад
@ActualAshCam +23
@ActualAshCam

​@@user-ou8ki4rj4l That is... _not_ how phones work. That only works if you have your bootloader unlocked, which almost everyone does not have. Even then, that would require multiple reboots and explicit entry to fastboot mode using hardware buttons that are in a different configuration on each phone. Oh, and to unlock your bootloader, you need to enable bootloader unlocking in the developer settings, requiring your PIN twice, and then in fastboot mode, unlock it, *wiping your data,* rendering the entire process infeasible and utterly useless.

2 месяца назад
@asiamies9153
@asiamies9153

​@@user-ou8ki4rj4lyou don't know what you're talking about

2 месяца назад
@braapybobby
@braapybobby

​@@ActualAshCamdelete your comment. You're bleeding both ignorance and arrogance. Software lockouts like that are only as secure as any other piece of software. Think about it. For all we know it already happens. They could have a 0day exploit to allow data or r/w access to the device, then check the owner of the device for names of politicians, celebrities, and other large role-models and infect their device. Pick and chose that way, it may take a LONG time to be found out, and people like you will be helping them by spreading a false sense of security!

2 месяца назад
@jbmw16
@jbmw16

you can't flash a bios without having the bootlocker signing keys or an unlocked bootloader. Even if you had the phone on your hands you can't do it due to bootloader locking. @@user-ou8ki4rj4l

Месяц назад
@SeBushi +4
@SeBushi

Watching this literally as I’m charging my phone at the airport

Месяц назад
@Phoenix-zu6on +1651
@Phoenix-zu6on

FYI there are cables that you can use to charge that have their data channels blocked, theyre called datablock or power-only cables.

2 месяца назад
@hurz506 +29
@hurz506

Yeah dude's blurting out bad information by the dozen.

2 месяца назад
@andrewestes4999 +284
@andrewestes4999

He doesn't blurt fake information 😂 he's been hacking for 20 years But now that you've commented he'll never not be in feed 😊 have fun

2 месяца назад
@hurz506 +9
@hurz506

@@andrewestes4999 "he'll never not be in feed"?

2 месяца назад
@thehunter7772 +68
@thehunter7772

There are plenty of options to protect yourself. The problem are the people that ignore those.

2 месяца назад
@Penguinverse +28
@Penguinverse

@@hurz506he made a typo. Oh no!

2 месяца назад
@comet.x +2
@comet.x

I saw one of these but it had the fbi icon on it, and the text 'you know you want to' on it

2 месяца назад
@CarbuncleWishes
@CarbuncleWishes

I've really come to love and enjoy your content from your shorts to your long plays to your dev videos. I appreciate all the infosec information from someone with such great experience. Honestly, a small part of me can't help but feel a semblance of pity. That we've developed a world where you constantly have to be so on edge and always aware of every way someone is trying to abuse vulnerabilities in systems most people don't even know about. You must either feel like a madman or a superhero.

3 дня назад
@livanbard +1
@livanbard

I only ever charge phones on a power outlet. I don't even trust my work computer for that

Месяц назад
@crimsondragon2677 +1
@crimsondragon2677

And this is why I use exclusively wireless charging. Because the charger I carry around can’t scan my phone.

Месяц назад
@Neonalig +2154
@Neonalig

It's so good that modern phones have started defaulting charge protocols to power only, requiring explicit control to set it to file or media transfer. These dangers really need to be made known to more people.

2 месяца назад
@Neonalig +41
@Neonalig

I would be curious to know about the PD handshaking protocols on new USB-C chargers, since that does require an amount of data communication between devices, and whether there is room for exploit there. That being said, its going to be a long time before airports are generous enough to give us anything more than 5V 0.5/1A.

2 месяца назад
@ShorlanTanzo +62
@ShorlanTanzo

That's not a modern phone thing, that's been around for some time, at least my old clunky phone has had it from the start. It's a Moto though so maybe Apple or Samsung phones that 90% of people use just automatically allow anything plugged in to have data access?

2 месяца назад
@EMETRL +29
@EMETRL

and like most good phone features, it started on android

2 месяца назад
@Arctic_silverstreak +3
@Arctic_silverstreak

​@@Neonaligpd handshake is analog signal

2 месяца назад
@bghost3636 +9
@bghost3636

How can it when the people in charge of laws and regulations don't have a clue? Every public hearing involving our leaders and tech is an embarrassment.

2 месяца назад
@TimPortantno +1
@TimPortantno

Pro tip: use a power bank in between, then it can only charge

2 месяца назад
@nermhouse
@nermhouse

if that ever happens then that would theoretically be a good ol lawsuit cheque waiting to happen

15 дней назад
@Shir0taka +763
@Shir0taka

"Oh boy! I'm gonna charge my phone in this free charging in airport!" *Hot single moms now knows your location*

2 месяца назад
@livedandletdie +21
@livedandletdie

I was browsing the internet in a remote af place... I'm speaking not a single person within a 10 mile radius kind of remote. And of course one of those ads popped up, hot single women in your area, only 50 yards away... never mind a woman, I couldn't see a single tree within 50 yards... What's even more hilarious, is that I'm a gay dude, and never in my life have I seen a hot guys in your area scam ad...

2 месяца назад
@tformerdude6788 +19
@tformerdude6788

"You have alerted the hordes. "

2 месяца назад
@ExcaliBurnGD +1
@ExcaliBurnGD

"Spin for free iphone 15"

2 месяца назад
@TheMcGritz
@TheMcGritz

Actually pretty common too, not just a precaution

20 дней назад
@sebbes333 +1
@sebbes333

*Use a "USB condom"* (yes seriously)! It is a tiny adapter you plug in, that has physically removed the data pins, then you plug in your phone into that adapter.

14 дней назад
@CobrapowerM +774
@CobrapowerM

The title should be "How to get hacked in public"

2 месяца назад
@hadensnodgrass3472 +7
@hadensnodgrass3472

While it an obvious risk there hasn't been a single actual occurrence of this a data breach in this way. It seem like a huge risk, but it hasn't actually happened oddly enough. 🤔 Is it too obvious? Or are just easier ways to steal data?

2 месяца назад
@mazarinee
@mazarinee

​@@hadensnodgrass3472No, it's just fake. Phones require manual confirmation for data transfer. This guy occasionally likes lying.

2 месяца назад
@davidli3582
@davidli3582

@@hadensnodgrass3472 it's much easier to steal data when you grab someone's phone that's already been unlocked. As long as you keep it unlocked, you basically bypassed all their passwords and MFA.

2 месяца назад
@Azazeel._ +8
@Azazeel._

​@@hadensnodgrass3472 you just don't know

2 месяца назад
@CLOYO
@CLOYO

​@@hadensnodgrass3472TikTok and the other apps you're already using 😂

2 месяца назад
@618predatorhunters8
@618predatorhunters8

“His bank account is negative and he doesn’t leave his house” a hacker hacking my phone prolly

3 дня назад
@mangomongo8103
@mangomongo8103

This is along the lines of the fake card readers put on top of real readers at gas stations and the grocery store

10 дней назад
@yunsha9986 +243
@yunsha9986

For those concerned, the simpler solution is NOT to carry a power bank, it's just to carry the brick and the cable. So you can just plug your own in the wall. The reason of data breach is only specific if you use "available bricks and cables"

2 месяца назад
@the_rapture9808 +3
@the_rapture9808

Unfortunately some go so far as to attach their own "plug" to an existing outlet to make the evil hackering work even if plugged in just briefly

2 месяца назад
@JohnSmith-dp2jd
@JohnSmith-dp2jd

@@the_rapture9808 At some point you're just hitting diminishing returns. Think of it like a lock on your home. It's probably a bad idea to leave it unlocked while you're out or asleep or invite random strangers in, but it's not practical to just nail the door shut and bar the windows with a doggy door for someone to pass groceries in through. It might be possible to have a fake power outlet that can hack your phone through the power brick and whatever it's using to go from 120v AC to 5v DC, maybe? But if that's the case, you shouldn't use any outlet anywhere you don't know really well. Don't plug a cable directly between your phone and a random USB port is good advice, never use outlets outside your home is kinda impractical. More to the point, you can avoid a lot of that stuff by just not keeping really sensitive stuff like banking info on your phone. Which is already a good idea since it's usually easier for someone to grab it and run off with than a laptop, let alone a desktop.

2 месяца назад
@SpoonfullofSandrock +67
@SpoonfullofSandrock

​@@the_rapture9808this isn't a thing. Your 120v AC wall outlet does not transfer data. Unless you're using a USB that's plumbed into the outlet or something, there's no possible way for a standard outlet to access your phone.

2 месяца назад
@Skyl3t0n +19
@Skyl3t0n

@@SpoonfullofSandrock I think he meant that the nuclear powerplant will corrupt his hentai collection

2 месяца назад
@DeathnoteBB +2
@DeathnoteBB

Why not also carry a power bank?

2 месяца назад
@umo3418 +1
@umo3418

Just charge your portable charger then charge your device, they can't upload/download data to a portal battery 🔋

Месяц назад
@meyes1098 +1
@meyes1098

Have a powerblock that only takes power and is a usb-c input. And then charge your phone from that.

2 месяца назад
@endlessvoid7952 +229
@endlessvoid7952

In theory, yeah. Same with public WiFi. In practice, this RARELY happens. You have to think who exactly is covertly replacing power bricks at airports with malware laced USB cables, how easy is that to get away with (it’s not, especially at an airport), they’d also need exploits for specific phones operating systems or hardware, etc etc. it’s just very unlikely anyone is burning their zero-days to infect completely random people at airports. Not saying it never happens, but it’s very unlikely.

2 месяца назад
@caggles +30
@caggles

They don't need to burn a zero-day at an airport. They just need someone with an older phone that doesn't ask for permission before making a data connection, or someone who isn't paying attention and clicks "yes" on the pop-up without reading it fully. Very few hackers are interested in trying to get the data of everyone - they're happy enough to just get the information of those who don't know any better. Of course that's not to say it's a common issue anyway, because it isn't. But it's still worth watching out for.

2 месяца назад
@dumatrising2421 +30
@dumatrising2421

Yeah afaik and according to the feds there's never been a confirmed case of juice jacking in an airport. However it is something to consider for other public USB ports, especially the ones hotels now usually have in the night stands. Those are the ones I'd really be concerned about.

2 месяца назад
@SpunkMayo +8
@SpunkMayo

Actually, in practice, this has NEVER happened.

2 месяца назад
@youarenotspecial +2
@youarenotspecial

And this will never happen. I don't use VPN ever I don't encrypt or make all my passwords different and yet 😮😮😮😮😮 I've never had anything major happen at all. Insane right..... It's almost like hackers don't actually care about people who don't put a lot of there stuff on the internet anyways.

2 месяца назад
@user-rp6ej4nu9j
@user-rp6ej4nu9j

sorry mates but you're ignorant and you're wrong. people need to know this DOES happen. if your phone was hacked you wouldn't even know about it. if you have nothing worth blackmailing for or stealing you'll never encounter it. but it does happen to other people. stay off wifi. stay off hotel wifi especially 5 star hotel wifi. @@youarenotspecial ​

2 месяца назад
@bich_what
@bich_what

One of the many reasons I always bring my own power brick

29 дней назад
@jedstanaland2897
@jedstanaland2897

There are two ways to prevent that problem first using a special adapter that doesn't allow data transmission. Second using a battery as a go between. Basically you purchase a small battery that has enough power to change your phone once or twice and charge it instead of your phone. The adapter is the other way because it connects through the USB port but is charging only meaning that it couldn't access your phone anyway. Both of these said the battery way is best because you are leaving only a battery and not your expensive phone there to be stolen or hacked.

Месяц назад
@leonruru7506 +471
@leonruru7506

My charging my powerbank and then my phone with the bank🗿

2 месяца назад
@poppinpineapples3481 +37
@poppinpineapples3481

Modern problems require modern solutions 💀

2 месяца назад
@nuccibebo_
@nuccibebo_

@@poppinpineapples3481 fax

2 месяца назад
@zp491 +77
@zp491

​@@poppinpineapples3481Might be the worst use of a skull emoji I've seen in a long time

2 месяца назад
@4Core100 +6
@4Core100

You can buy USB cables that are for power only. They simply dont have the data lines. Or you can make your own if you have some spare ones...

2 месяца назад
@SpeedyGwen
@SpeedyGwen

I do same

2 месяца назад
@lightneko
@lightneko

That's why I use a charger case with data blocking.

Месяц назад
@nameless-user
@nameless-user

I pack a small power brick and a nano wallwart in my pocket. Overkill, but it's come in handy way too many times to count.

Месяц назад
@avetisk +339
@avetisk

Your channel is one of the best channels I have discovered in 2023. At first I thought it was only video games. But then I discovered it’s about life itself. Thanks man for the great content.

2 месяца назад
@CuLABx +1
@CuLABx

And what? Do you want a cookie? Perhaps some kebabs after viewing your pfp

2 месяца назад
@AJE1111 +5
@AJE1111

​@@CuLABxbad day, man?

2 месяца назад
@avetisk
@avetisk

@@CuLABx I don’t like cookies sir. But it seems you need one.

2 месяца назад
@bobgwweb
@bobgwweb

That's why it's important to take your own battery pack. Charge the battery pack on those situations

27 дней назад
@C01dEyes
@C01dEyes

This is why I've got my own battery backup I take everywhere

2 месяца назад
@Maxiamaru +179
@Maxiamaru

This is why I bring my own data cables, wall warts, and even power banks.

2 месяца назад
@Mittoju
@Mittoju

is it ok to just charge power banks on those free charging station?

2 месяца назад
@revolverjesus98 +5
@revolverjesus98

If all else fails, completely shut off your phone. It only allows you to charge your phone, not transfer any data

2 месяца назад
@ARockRaider +7
@ARockRaider

​@@revolverjesus98 i still wouldn't trust that, data hookup is data hookup. your own wallwart is small and much safer.

2 месяца назад
@advorak8529
@advorak8529

⁠@@ARockRaider Data hookups that are well known attack vectors: - The Internet - The mobile voice network. Backdoors like “silent SMS” are built in already Never mind instructions interpreted by software with the instructions not being from a known-safe source. As any software has bugs, that makes such instructions attack vectors. For example compressed data like video or audio … Stay away from them. Oh, and never insert USB sticks or cables into your computer. Danger!

2 месяца назад
@SummerAlleriaWindrunner +2
@SummerAlleriaWindrunner

'Wall wart' was got to be the funniest fcking thing I've ever heard.

2 месяца назад
@ottersmeep25
@ottersmeep25

No current cases of this being exploited in the wild.

2 месяца назад
@badreality2
@badreality2

This is why I set my phone to "Charge Only" mode.

Месяц назад
@theodoros_1234 +340
@theodoros_1234

Thankfully, modern phone operating systems prevent USB devices from accessing your phone's data, unless the user allows it. Android has a "charge only" option for USB devices, for example. *HOWEVER,* you never know what kind of exploits the hackers might find to bypass these protections, so it's still better not to take the risk.

2 месяца назад
@Sugondeeze +3
@Sugondeeze

Thought about that.

2 месяца назад
@KD-_- +10
@KD-_-

Yeah the main thing here is the existence of exploits that work regardless

2 месяца назад
@cashmen2312 +47
@cashmen2312

@@KD-_- Both iOS and Android exploits go for a ton of money these days. It's not impossible one could be used against you, but the likelihood of one being used against random people just to get into their phones is very low. The bigger risk is old exploits against people who either A. don't update their phone or B. have old phones that don't receive security updates. But with a relatively modern up to date phone it's highly improbable you're getting hit with a 0-day like this.

2 месяца назад
@AmateurCz +2
@AmateurCz

External device can just pretend that it's a keyboard, mouse or some other input device. Some phones accept inputs even when the screen is locked.

2 месяца назад
@cashmen2312 +3
@cashmen2312

@@AmateurCz you need either an app installed for them or usb debugging enabled. They dont just work plug and play without either of those criteria as far as i understand. When I'm talking about exploits I'm assuming a device that doesn't have usb debugging enabled, doesnt give the usb permissions outside of charging, and it's fully up to date.

2 месяца назад
@gmg9010
@gmg9010

People watching this on one of those charging stations right now.

2 месяца назад
@Total_DuDe +1
@Total_DuDe

Another reason why I love my induction charger.

2 месяца назад
@FUBARguy107 +284
@FUBARguy107

In 2006, just before my 18th birthday, a TSA agent said he needed to "check my phone". It was a basic Kyocera Rave with a flashlight on top. Beat to hell. He plugged it into a machine and then handed it back to me 10 seconds later. I said "what if it had been a hacking device and now I have access to your network" and he looked panicked. I was stopped in 2004 for steel bicycle "pegs" my dad had given me to put on my bike back home. TSA thought I had suppressors. I was maybe 14 or 15.

2 месяца назад
@reverseengineeredbot3387
@reverseengineeredbot3387

Lol

2 месяца назад
@no-damn-alias +18
@no-damn-alias

That the TSA is allowed to check your phones.....

2 месяца назад
@callmeincarcerated2503 +12
@callmeincarcerated2503

To be fair, a peg can look like suppressor internals

2 месяца назад
@John-Perry
@John-Perry

@@callmeincarcerated2503No, they just look like a complete suppressor. The internal baffles of a suppressor are not even sort of similar looking.

2 месяца назад
@MisterMosfet +16
@MisterMosfet

​@@callmeincarcerated2503yeah it's one threaded pipe and a Brillo pad away from being an actual suppressor 😂

2 месяца назад
@5ub7even
@5ub7even

And thats why I always use my own charger in an outlet - never a USB

2 месяца назад
@TheGoncas2 +1
@TheGoncas2

This was true 5-10 years ago. There are protections for this built-in the phones now, don't spread misinformation.

16 дней назад
@GeorgeN-ATX +158
@GeorgeN-ATX

The FBI warned about this on Twitter a while back, which got everyone talking about it, but there hasn't been a single verified case of this happening. Also it's important to remember that using your own Power Brick charger in an outlet is fine, just avoid the provided built-in USB ports. Edit: If anyone comes across this over a month later, please see my reply to Thor below. (TL;DR is I only meant there hadn't been a single verified case of USBs in walls/furniture like in airports or hotels that had been modified.)

2 месяца назад
@riftsplitter2159 +23
@riftsplitter2159

Its based on what COULD happen not what is happening the best way to prevent attacks is the not provide the opportunity for one.

2 месяца назад
@seanlarabee6300
@seanlarabee6300

@@riftsplitter2159 Risk is calculated by bringing together likelihood and impact. When the likelihood is vanishingly small even if a good chunk of your life is tied into your phone, the risk will remain small. Small enough that stressing about a public charging station if you need some juice should not, well, stress you out.

2 месяца назад
@sethschexneider +9
@sethschexneider

There's been confirmed cases. It's just that it's not rampant or a popular way to gain access to a device. There's just more popular ways of gaining access to a remote device.

2 месяца назад
@Yander_van_der_wurff +2
@Yander_van_der_wurff

I plugged my chromebook in in the train and two minutes later i started to register al kinds of random inputs. It stopped immediately when i pulled the charging chord out. It never happened before, and never helpend again. I think it could have been inputs because the hacking dives wasn't intended to be used on a chromebook. But it could just be a coincidence or something

2 месяца назад
@doomse150 +17
@doomse150

Most phones have explicit settinga to specify whether a connection should be used for power or data. So unless there is an actual exploit to get around those, this is just fearmongering

2 месяца назад
@MechNubbins
@MechNubbins

Additionally, you can just turn the phone off before plugging it in since it needs to be powered on for data transfer protocols to actually work on it

Месяц назад
@nicholassunderbruch7131
@nicholassunderbruch7131

Always bring your own box and plug directly into a wall.

2 месяца назад
@auliobooks +93
@auliobooks

But doesn’t the mobile pop up a dialog asking for permission to send data, if the minicomputer on the other hand tries to?

2 месяца назад
@alexandrohutt8421 +32
@alexandrohutt8421

No, the only reason you get that message on your own computer is because of code. Code that can be removed. Edit: Sorry, I worded that weirdly. You don't need to remove code. You can use many "brute-force attacks" to get around all types of security features. You just have to be better than the security. When you're in the device, you can change, delete, alter whatever you want.

2 месяца назад
@alexfernald6162 +48
@alexfernald6162

But if the code is on the phone side, how does the computer side get permissions to make changes?

2 месяца назад
@trordle1436 +26
@trordle1436

It takes the FBI with a big computer a couple of days to crack a phone they have physical access to. It may not be good practice, but you are probably okay. It's so inefficient it's not worth it for the bad guys to set these rigs up.

2 месяца назад
@kafaszos
@kafaszos

​@@trordle1436 they need to crack it because they dont have your password or encryption keys. But at the airport you usually plug it in and enter your password, so they dont need to crack it.

2 месяца назад
@Burgo361 +4
@Burgo361

You would be surprised how many companies think they can hide backdoors into their devices that will never be discovered, chances are your phone will be fine but it's a risk thing you could be the unlucky person that gets their phone hacked.

2 месяца назад
@benjaminreynolds3659
@benjaminreynolds3659

I don't even connect to free wifi, so I would never use a charger that isn't mine.

2 месяца назад
@Mika-85
@Mika-85

Thats why you set your USB Settings to "charge only"

2 месяца назад
@ghosthin3012 +26
@ghosthin3012

That's why I usually bring my own mini surge protector when I am traveling if I carrying a big bag. Plug my own charger on it. Bonus point, if all the outlets are taken, you can always ask to plug in your surge protector and share the outlet with whoever using it at the moment so you never have to wait. When I have to travel light, use a power bank.

2 месяца назад
@asiamies9153
@asiamies9153

No need. The phone would just ask for a permission to transfer data, to which you can say no. No documented cases of breaches of these kind

2 месяца назад
@elvendragonhammer5433 +1
@elvendragonhammer5433

Finally- If more ppl hear stuff like this maybe in a decade or so, ppl will stop reacting like I'm paranoid lol. this goes for loose USB drives you find laying around on the street, or on outdoor coffee tables too. If you want to see what it does make sure you test it on an air-gapped, machine in a VM or other appropriate isolation container. We may seem paranoid, but It's way better to be save rather than sorry; especially since most ppl have their entire lives on their devices.

2 месяца назад
@deadringr
@deadringr

This reminds me of the time that the NSA Put Phone Charging Station At A Hacker Conference

29 дней назад
@irdmoose +30
@irdmoose

You don't even need to hide the computer in the brick any more. They are small enough that they can be concealed within the ends of the cable itself.

2 месяца назад
@metaleggman18
@metaleggman18

Really depends on what you consider a computer. Usually they're just small logic chips with a tiny Wi-Fi antenna, so someone within distance, or on the network, can listen in remotely. Some logic chips might have payloads as well, but again, that's using your phone as the computer, not the cable itself.

2 месяца назад
@PirateSoftware +18
@PirateSoftware

Yeppo, O.MG Cable is exactly that.

2 месяца назад
@irdmoose +3
@irdmoose

@@metaleggman18 Sure, it's not going to run Doom, but even a WiFi chipset is a computer. Particularly because most of them have to deal with cryptography. Even those small logic chips have some level of processing power to act as a portal to the compromised device between the WiFi chipset and the device being attacked. Granted the bulk of the processing is handled externally, but where the majority of the processing is done isn't what determines whether something is a computer or not. That's like saying the standalone desktop or server computer system that is an interface for a supercomputer (which has no interface of its own) isn't a computer any more because the supercomputer is doing the bulk of the processing work.

2 месяца назад
@jeffreyheffner908 +1
@jeffreyheffner908

​@@irdmooseI would argue it can probably run Doom

2 месяца назад
@irdmoose
@irdmoose

@@jeffreyheffner908 Maybe it could... that would be an interesting project for someone with the desire to make it happen.

2 месяца назад
@platitron9143
@platitron9143

New fear acquired

Месяц назад
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina

This is why I carry both a charging-only cable (it has none of the data leads in it) and a data cable, one for charging and one for transferring data.

2 месяца назад
@shevek5934 +22
@shevek5934

The good news is that at least as of a year ago, there were basically no actual reported cases of "juice jacking" in the wild BUT that doesn't mean you should attach your phone to those things. It's almost certainly going to start being a real danger at some point.

2 месяца назад
@youarenotspecial +1
@youarenotspecial

At some point this world could end that doesn't mean you get all paranoid and stop doing stuff because of it. 😂

2 месяца назад
@hivemind8817 +3
@hivemind8817

It will probably never be a major issue except in cases of the government tapping it. The big issue is the moment you plug your phone in its going to give the "trust this computer" prompt. Which means you need an exploit before you even think about "juice jacking". Which is unlikely unless you have some cheap outdated phone.

2 месяца назад
@johnprodject3403 +1
@johnprodject3403

The overwhelming majority of people would never be aware if this happened to them. There's too much distance between the event, and hypothetical consequences. At some point, an account will be hacked, and it could of been from something like this that they don't even remember doing. It's a data slurp, not someone looking to do something loud like ransomware your phone.

2 месяца назад
@shevek5934
@shevek5934

@@hivemind8817 The issue is that the universe of vulnerabilities increases many orders of magnitude once the attacker has physical access to the device. You should NEVER assume that the security invariants of your software remain true once there is physical access. That's why the federal government has issued a warning about juice jacking even in the absence of any reported cases SO FAR.

2 месяца назад
@hivemind8817
@hivemind8817

@@shevek5934 The issue with what you said is it changes nothing about what I said. Even if you have physical access you still need a vulnerability of which none exist for long outside of a government or government contractors. You also have to weigh risk and work vs reward. The financial reward for almost all physical hacking is extremely low with high risk and a lot of work. There are far better ways at making money through cybercrime than juice jacking. And even then the reward is less than if you just sold the exploit to apples or googles bug bounty programs to begin with. Point is there is no financial incentive to that type of hack so the criminal would need an ulterior motive like targeting a specific person. And at that point you have larger issues. I also want to point out they don’t have physical access they have remote access via the data port. It’s very different than physical access. Vulnerabilities are still limited to the charging/data port and won’t have a “orders of magnatude increase”.

2 месяца назад
@luismiguelpineda7070 +1
@luismiguelpineda7070

Doing that Is not an easy task, meaning is not really profitable and most likely would never happen to you or any of the people you know. But if you are really concerned, want to be extra safe or you're paranoic, just turn off the phone while connected, that blocks the transfer of data. You don't have to buy a power-only type of cable.

Месяц назад
@sledgetheberserker1354
@sledgetheberserker1354

Reminds me of the image of a charging station at an NSA office, the sign reading “You know you want to try it!”

2 месяца назад
@loganshum9618 +3
@loganshum9618

this guy figured out the algorithm cause he be everywhere i go

2 месяца назад
@Hershewed
@Hershewed

Also don’t use the ones in University student lounges or hospitals too for that matter.

4 дня назад
@seidimeow +58
@seidimeow

yeah I heard this on the news like 7 months ago, that's why I always carry my laptop, charge that on a public charger and then charge my phone with my charged laptop, safety first!!!

2 месяца назад
@MichaelStoller84 +6
@MichaelStoller84

That's stupid. This is being overly cautious, no one ever gets hacked like this

2 месяца назад
@PatrikKron +7
@PatrikKron

If the laptop charges with usb-c, and you plug it into a public usb-c charger. In theory the same thing could happen. Although the likelyhood of this happening on a permanently installed charger is very small. If you are a targeted person, then you should be careful with chargers given to you though (since then it can be a targeted attack).

2 месяца назад
@seidimeow +20
@seidimeow

trust me yall, I know what I'm doing, I used to hack power plants for the government with java on club penguin

2 месяца назад
@francisco.segura +2
@francisco.segura

​@@seidimeowew, java. Rip club penguin

2 месяца назад
@RespectTheSourceMaterial +9
@RespectTheSourceMaterial

You people really didn't understand that she was joking? Like....how?@@PatrikKron

2 месяца назад
@Tomyironmane
@Tomyironmane

Thank you, sir, for validating my paranoia.

Месяц назад
@AdamWebbadamwbb
@AdamWebbadamwbb

Not only that but phones these days can set the mode of the USB port to block data.

Месяц назад
@realityveil6151 +11
@realityveil6151

While this attack is theoretically possible, a hacker would still have to draw the rest of the owl. It's not practical.

2 месяца назад
@omega_berzerk5384
@omega_berzerk5384

That is precisely why i always carry my own powerbank everywhere i go and charge IT at the public charging stations and outlets

23 дня назад
@pheenhack
@pheenhack

Understanding the extent of the Internet of things is a different level of beast.

2 месяца назад
@jhonshephard921 +10
@jhonshephard921

Many airports have full power plugs. I use those with my own cable and power brick.

2 месяца назад
@VitisCZ
@VitisCZ

Use a charging only cable in public places. It's a cable that doesn't physically contain the data cable but only the power delivery ones

Месяц назад
@larseckert8580
@larseckert8580

I always have an extension cord when flying. I used to think I was just helping out other people, now I feel creeped out and lucky.

2 месяца назад
@doomse150 +16
@doomse150

Most phones have a charging only option that you can activate when plugging in a cable. Some even prompt you if you want data transfer or only power transfer. My old phone used to block USB access from my PC as soon as the screen turned off (which is really annoying when moving large chunks of data). So unless you happen to have an exploit for any of those, please don't go fearmongering (or showing off, I can't quite tell which this supposed to be).

2 месяца назад
@SalvadorDali22 +6
@SalvadorDali22

There have been exploits like this in the past and probably will be again. And a lot of people have older phones that don't get security updates anymore.

2 месяца назад
@Nilruin +3
@Nilruin

Most phones older than 2 years can be tricked into uploading or downloading data without manual permissions. Apple phones are a little trickier to fool, but most other brands have numerous security vulnerabilities in their firmware that allows this sort of thing. There's a reason why your phone gets an firmware update once or even twice a month. The manufacturers need to stay on top of those vulnerabilities. And uh, Thor used to do this shit for a living. It's not fearmongering or showing off, it's solid advice. Don't go using public cables unless you've double-checked all the settings on your phone to disallow data permissions and you've updated your firmware recently. Most users do neither and are susceptible to these sorts of attacks, especially if their phone is old.

2 месяца назад
@doomse150 +3
@doomse150

@@Nilruin No, solid advice would be telling people how to actually protect against these things. Stuff like proper device setting, or even hardware solutions if you want to go the paranoid route. Making it seem like there are no actual counter measures is blowing things way out of proportion, which is used for either fearmongering or showing off.

2 месяца назад
@michaelkelsey4918
@michaelkelsey4918

​​@@doomse150he didn't say there were no workarounds, he said not to use it. His audience is diverse, and some might not be able to utilize his advice had he gone into detail

2 месяца назад
@doomse150
@doomse150

@@michaelkelsey4918 By giving "stay away" as the only piece of advice, it strongly implies a lack of workarounds (specifically easy workarounds), or at least it significantly ramps up the shock value of his "advice". Also, as diverse as the audience may be, "set your phone to power-only" is way easier to follow than "don't use public chargers at all". The latter most likely goes out of the window as soon as someone is in a pinch. And that doesn't go into more detail either, it's about one sentence either way, just that one has actual usable advice and the other adds shock value.

2 месяца назад
@scarasriel
@scarasriel

I personally carry a personal power bank and cord with me to avoid those specifically

29 дней назад
@SuperDoreg
@SuperDoreg

new fear unlocked

2 месяца назад
@YorugataTV +38
@YorugataTV

Found out about this back in 2021. Didn't think much but the whole thing makes a lot of sense. I'm currently working on-site at a client for the past few months, and they did an IT awareness thing in October. One of the things they gave out were little kits that included a webcam blocker and a USB A female to male adapter that doesn't connect the data pins. The manager I'm working under at the client wasn't even aware that was a thing, so told him about what I've learned about it.

2 месяца назад
@SteenatheCatrobat
@SteenatheCatrobat

Note to self: Always use a power block or bring own portable charger from now on. O_o

Месяц назад
@JamesThompson-zu3bq
@JamesThompson-zu3bq

Remember if you have your own "charging block" it's fine, but if it's a usb outlet that's when it's dangerous

2 дня назад
@chris6ix. +15
@chris6ix.

If you have an android, you can check your settings. There should be a setting to disable data transfer over USB, so it only accepts power. It's basically a built-in "data blocker cable". I'm not sure which androids have it, but my Galaxy S23 has it.

2 месяца назад
@byronbarrientos8471
@byronbarrientos8471

It's not on by default? Its an option you have to look for ? Yeah the average person ain't gonna do that or know.. which there lies the problem. The people who get scammed and shit are the average person.

2 месяца назад
@Ant-vv2el
@Ant-vv2el

*screams in magsafe charging*

Месяц назад
@littlefishyy
@littlefishyy

New fear unlocked…

2 месяца назад
@vachedavtyan9085 +25
@vachedavtyan9085

But what about phone OS permission? There is 3 options like for charging for data send/receive ...

2 месяца назад
@wodmarach +3
@wodmarach

most phones default to data

2 месяца назад
@katanasteel +4
@katanasteel

But that charging port is also used for recovery... it is physical access and could go around any permission protections it want. As always when the attacker had physical access all bets are off... cause all they need then is time.

2 месяца назад
@bugsuck11 +2
@bugsuck11

@@wodmarach but they still require a context interaction in order to enumerate as usb mass storage. The only exception would be a device you've "trusted" previously

2 месяца назад
@noobiusmaximus6314
@noobiusmaximus6314

Only use your own cable. Ideally, use your own brick so you can plug that into a mains socket (which should be adundant at airports)

2 месяца назад
@Jamesemcnairofficial
@Jamesemcnairofficial

I use a Portable Battery Bank at the airport everytime for THIS reason.

23 дня назад
@FizzyK-45 +8
@FizzyK-45

Pretty much the reason why I bring my own power bank everywhere 😅

2 месяца назад
@sullivandeffinger4970
@sullivandeffinger4970

I personally am attached to my own personal charging cables

Месяц назад
@russellfarmer4723 +3
@russellfarmer4723

Even worse, when I worked at an airport we installed things that could monitor everyone’s phone usage and if it saw certain keywords or in emergency’s it would jam the signal

Месяц назад
@Lord_Draxard +43
@Lord_Draxard

Damn that’s scary! What’s even scarier is being this early to a video

2 месяца назад
@buns_glazing
@buns_glazing

wow i didnt even realize

2 месяца назад
@doomse150
@doomse150

Given that most phones have explicit power-only modes that they will prompt for when plugged in, it's only scary because it's half of the story.

2 месяца назад
@eniky
@eniky

Jokes on you, my cable doesn't support data transfer. Only charging

2 месяца назад
@megumin6206 +20
@megumin6206

Yes, theoretically, but this is so rare that most scams and other things do bother with this, if you have other options dont but there are easier ways to compromise the security of phones for hackers, and these kinds of things are exeedingly rare to worry about

2 месяца назад
@WaelHasnaoui +9
@WaelHasnaoui

Not even theoretically. You can't install shit using a USB cable unless you allow it on purpose. It can't even read files on your phone or copy stuff to it without you manually changing the connection type

2 месяца назад
@calummcconnell7313 +1
@calummcconnell7313

@@WaelHasnaouithere are exploits that have existed historically to that protection; and “debug modes” and such. But it isn’t a very viable attack method

2 месяца назад
@dutchm658
@dutchm658

​@@calummcconnell7313those typically only apply if the OS on your phone is not up-to-date - security updates get rolled out extremely fast on stuff like this

2 месяца назад
@crabjockey
@crabjockey

people are so complacent. I am not, but thought of as "paranoid". I'm glad to hear that my assumptions were sometimes true.

2 месяца назад
@H0ttabych +1
@H0ttabych

Did we really need to change from 2 separate ports for data and charging to one combined port?

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@jakesnodgrass4924 +4
@jakesnodgrass4924

Highly highly unlikely that you’ll ever encounter an information stealing power cable in public.

2 месяца назад
@gamershadow8
@gamershadow8

this is why i bring my own charger cord and/or power bank

2 месяца назад
@fridayhawks-spangenberg8979
@fridayhawks-spangenberg8979

That's why I specifically have travel cables with no data lines in them. I test them at home to ensure that they're power only :)

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